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PARLIAMENT OF VICTORIA.
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
Thursday, 6th, April.
The Speaker look the chair at ten
minutes past four o'olock.
Hon. members on entering tbo liouae,
took thiir seats as follows :—
On the right, or ministerial aide of the
entrance — Messrs. Kvorard, Perry, Wilkie,
Hughes, Horne, lliooke, Miles, Ovrenf,
Grnnt, Ware, SuodgrasB, Adamson, Wood
O'Hntn, ^yme Thomson, Beaver, Clarke,
Johnson, liancork, Findloy, Kicardo. On
the lift or opposition side — Messrs Moore,
M Culloch, Furlongr, Hcales, Greeves,
Embling, Davie, Langlanils, Service, Lai or,
Raines, Michie, Ebdtn, Anderson, C.Camp-
bell, 1). S. Campbell, and Fellows.
Keturn to Writs.
The Speaker announced that he had' re
ceived returns to the writs issued for the
election of members to tho seats vacated
by tbc gentlemen who had accepted oHiee
in ibe new ministry, certiljing the rc
cleclion of Mr; U'ohanassy for Itilmore j
Mr. Chapman for St. Kilda ; Mr. Ireland,
for CdftlemainejDr. livanR, for Uichmond ;
Mr. Uuflj-, for ViJIiera and »C)tcsbur.v ;
and Mr. Harker, for Collinj; wood, llu^e
bon. gerjtlemeu were subsequently
introduced, and, took the oaths and their
scats on the right. Mr. Mollison was »lso
introduced, and took the oaths and his
?oat, ou the lelt for Dundas and Follet.
Ministerial Explaj)oti3D9.
Mr. Chapman tben rose and eiid,— l'cr-
hapB the bouse »iU now permit mo to
oifer a ittalement— a very brief ont— ot the
circumstances under which I undertook
the formation of a ministry When on the
2nd March latt, I was at Sandhurst, I re
ceived r. communication from His Excel
lency, HE^ing mo it I would, uniLertuke the
task. oX laj-.njing.a mmutiy, Ii) ihut cotn
Diuuicntian His Exsxilcucy briefly rAateti
to mi*, the piocecdings of tlie previous,
we k, in regard lo niinuuxiai affairs. The
result was. that 1 could not be ignorant
from reading the papers, ot what bui
taktn plate, I stnt n telegraphic nutsag-u
tn his Ivxoellency bUting, (h«t 1 would uu
deitake the task. 1 think His Kxcellenty
was then1 under the impression, that i
would not leave my duties to come to
town; but it would, hpfjear, that Ibat im
pression wms socn. removed, and I received
a telegraphic message aaking uie to come
dowiv iojsatdimeljy t^jji^-qot l*aye
u.i?nt6 for toe liulte* |U'^ich Ijhad beef) erj
triistefl iq pcrfbrnj bcin^M tended to on my
departure. I Uft', hiivrtver, nei't morning,
and «rrived in ; totvh in' the afteroboni
when I riad «n interview ?? with flis i'.x*
CD|lenpy, the .rpsnit of. ichioh. was Balk
tactqrv, ty fliii HxBellencr and 'oiynelfi
(Hear, hear.) Tl»p fjllpwing mproiqg, J
taw my fiotmrablt and ieariipd fricpil, Mr,
Ireland, slid ascertijiied )jis views in re
ijard to joining md' in the' formation1 of a1
minisl ry. At tbnt time it 'Was' quite clear
to inDilronHhepoiilioninyliondrabie avid
Ifkrljnd frifod oouu(ii«l es .a *iMab«r ol,
'bcibi-r^e^'A8.«Pi|[i--il:-o.tnp«rtltl-0 4iffirii,
I have, the h :nor V;,(i||,ia6.«e|| frqn, Ui«i
superior 6tindin)j at tbe bi.r, as fronj jthp
iUrge'r practice lii'had (bcre. *I,'howiiver,
?was TlesirotiB orflllilljj ; htyself the office of
AtloTney-General, but ?iiatlthe'cflice' tlf
lOfriif tWMctary, for Ifrtt-Ct. wouldbeih-'
kWiEnniout its uie tobein'riiat office, th
or^r ,\Ui ,*iwpAH)J.,itt,;the ,('p«nuiqni «£.a-
?lW}^D' Jtw^«i llofffiyWi.erfiP%wd,to.talH-.
ithe (jfEce that y uld endble ^ to|:iic:
jcomplish that object ': However, (hr'oiiffh
what't miy cbai ttdlcriae ' as rile eeiiero'-.ily'
of 'my ton; »nd iea bedfricrio, Mr. ire1-1
Janrt, J101 saw ihb iljffliulty ihtrl ^ouldbe
in tha w»y. merohfto U)bi(t:on buin^np..
piijuted to |.)je oI^ob of AttoDlieyHGcnorul,,
and tlve end wt.s tLat he confuted to .«er
eept of the office of Solicitor-General under
me. This threw into my hands greater
facilities for ihe formation of a ministry
thin I should have had under otber cir
cumstances : beonu83 1 was then able to
offer to my hon. Irieni the member for
K 1 nore the office of Chief Secretaiv, f»r
wbiili in the eyes of Ihie house «nd of thu
country be is a.kaovr edged ta be tbe best
sailed, and Htiich ]ic hud a clear rij,ht to
expect, from the circumstance of his hold
ing that position on a former occasion.
Having thus succeeded in forming the
nucleus of a ministry, the rest of my tatk
was comparatively eacy. While the ques
tion v.ue in abeyance as to whether I
should Ukf tbe oEL-e of Alturocy-Oeneral
or Solicit, r-General, I hail a comu irnioa
tion wi'h my honorable mi.l e-rued t'ri^ml
.Mr. Wood, and received from htm the
assurance that though he concurred with
mv and would support the ministry I
plight fur.-i, it was not bis int miun to
join any ministry at tuo pro tent time Mr
Wood was tbe ouly ge.itlum.an to whom
I Applied without tucceaa, t_ut thit was
n't Iron any objection lo me or my col
leagnes, or the uiiu iples we profess. On
tbs Friday, I attempted to see my hon.
fiiend Mr. Miller, b.inj; indisposed he had
left Itis ofHee caily. 1 sair him, however,
on tbe following irjnrniug, n\\i oq tho same
day Bnw my bon. fiiend Mr. Harker. Tbe
communication I had with them ended
favorably, and though tbo o.lices those
honorable gentlemen now hold were not
then quite determine-!, Mr. Harker ex
pressed his willingness to place himself at
my seivite to aocept the office of Com
missioner fur Trade and Cu»t,oni«, or the
office ot Posttiiabter-Oerjeral, as 1 might
see fit. He c - pressed some hesitation at
lirst to accepting tbe offi.e of Treasurer,
hut in the end h^ was induced to take that
office, and I t.elieve there is no man in the
country better fitted to fi.l that office.
There thus remained onty the orlite of toe
Ponlinusler-liCMerul to be lilted. (Hear,
biar.J Un buuduy 1 had an appointment
with Mr Mukr, and I wan therefore
unable myself to call and see my liun. aud
learned iiicnd Or livans. I, liowever, re.
queued Mr. U'8bauassy to lerlorm that
function tor me, and 1 placed in his hands
sufficient power mid authority fur the pur
pose. Tbe result was that an Mon toy I
leceived a coniiuuniculiou from Dr. limns
thiough Mr. O'ahaiKMy, informing me ihnt
he a.ietdtojoin ihe minisiiy. Oui ininibtiy
was iIiuk cuiiipt^te, and wo wore enabled on
that evening lowaani His b'xeelleuey. Pre
viously, hoviever, we had a meeting with 10
i-peet to the coulee ne »huuld puisne in lenpect
to cany ing thiougb the ltcloin liillj. Wo
found 11 uuuld be liiipoaeibla to succeed in csr
ry.Uj the Kvilo.ui Link iinlcsi we tveie ar 1 til
wall the auttionty by Ilia hxeeJImuy to flis
Eolve the house, nut to be u?td --li mfliug or
uiiuei c?^ary giimmls ; but tnut 11 we fill it
necessary t- d-hs Ke the bouso our const itu-
tioiml advice wuuld be constitutionally Uken.
Un reprasimiing this lo bio tiiiclloucy wu re
ceived a pledge Imin hia Eic-Uclloy that he,
would do so, and on tho following day tlie hbt
ofuur cabinet was co Jitnuiiiiaied to ibe house.
1 hat is Um whole hutoiy uf tliu matter. 1 an
icminauu Uy my Uoa. aud liidined Ineud (Ml.
IrulanJj that Mr Wood inndo a peratn .1 ob
jectio to one iiiember 1 proposed ; but the.
laudation of hisrefurinl an, (hat he was not
deaiious tii join auy inmistiy. 1 do not know
it it is nccuidMry tu mako any fun her cputniu
nicatioo but this, tint our object is to carry
through such a reform bill as will In) batis
lactoiy lo Ihe country j mid if we succeed in
doitltf thit, it is nut om inleruion to biiog
fuiwaid any luiUier measwe Uiiu Bcsaion our
iielves, or to oucourage tbo introduction of uiea*
suies by other hon. ui'uiuhors. ll lion. mem.
bera think pro|-cr to tiling forward new bills,
tliey will ot'eourso bu at liuerty to do so ; hue
thu object vt tlie tlilHiitry is 10 bring tha
session lo a close as early as possille, tint hon.
members may have .sumo reit from their
alreadv t in protracted labours. My hon. fi iend
Mr Dufly ruminds me that 1 have omitted to
mention him. (Laughter) 1 have only tu nay
that hu was 0110 uf tlie nist in agree 10 do me
Ibelulior to join me.
Mr. OVhaiiHsay then rose and said— I deem
it only due to myself an I to hou. member.- of
this house whohe opinion I value, at* well as
iIumc opinions 1 value tliroUjU'Ut the cuuuttr,
to. make a niioi L aUiUjuieut of Uie ciieumttaliccs
under whieii 1 joined Ihe pteaetit admiral lull.
Ah h. n. niemieis mre aware, the late minis
try endeavoured tu ca.ty through a reloim
m-.-a-uie. W 11 bout coimiUihig other lumurable
ttictiiixjis on l/lu tydjeet out iHuVpemdiiKly, {
look such a view of that mearuie as 1 thought
U.rt Isupp'iited the measure of reform In
troduce' , liccaUM! 1 believed it essential! L ok.
iilKttttlio state of tlie house, tha. a umber of
members, anl the uuceSBity for the c tension
of tho fauehine, aud fir other rcdsons, I
deemed it my duly as a member of this hoiise'
lo Buppoitauy nieafUio of refoim, tluiugh it
might not tally with my views in every par
ticular. I »u|ipoiied that meaniru. fur Wie
rea-ons 1 have hi » led. The luinihtiy — our
predeeessms — did not anccecd in carrying the
ini-asuie ihrough, but 1 was notrrspinwibh! lor
their lailure. 1 knew nothing of thou: inia.
suran liil they were laid on. the ta/ilu. 'j,'|(5-
govnruiiieiit having failed in carrying one uf
their measuies, they tendered their resigna
tions nuxl day, aud un the same day Iha lion,
thuuhiuf stlciotary iufonmd. tlm hnusuthat
ilioy had, dune so. Ol| thu IioUbu udjuUl'liing,
Iho bon gemleiiian (Mr. Uaiuee) nlatyd lo
me that he had tu make a communication to
me-1 w«« no! pr. p^twl I01 liia vi ft. Ho mia
he had in hir po-etun on a ceitain com|imnica
tion lor me in bis pocket, but 1 did not. aak
him to pioduee it ; and' my reason w«s that
1 had been applied to by 001110 lion. nietiibcnt
kIm, in icgatd to iIh echpdulo of the lleforai
Bill, Mlppou'd t licy would lie bI.Io to put but
Ilia I lieu government. 1 wan applied to as to
tuy4ippMiUou,tu iuta* U6w tuinUiUyi aud, I
infotmei^he lion, meuibun «hn apn^to. nu.
iui ilia sill i'it, fouiiwn -ir fiftevn dav» lufoiu
ihadufoitofaho eoiemineiit, limt. '1 ludtio
elenire1 lo takt offi.«, a« it wmiM btj hgteftt
Iiemnnal inrDfiveriitMico were'1 10 dino. Afttir
iho defoat ol tlm G.irorniiieiii, tlio chiiT wcro
i«rydMiiiellieJi:inai'liorvjiiii,uiijiiiu, nnd I in
formed him in i-!|ilytn wltai hu said ihii I
vfjsnrjl ties ronis of Inking office, inl if be had'
nliy co'iiimuiiiealloii for me, I w.oilJ ratlinr
riot receive it. Ho pressed me, and ihotvht I
nrne / alter raah ; l-ut ciiii-Meiiiig.(lu)isa,.|toua
it) tlie 4-rets, that tlieru km a . werot uodei
standing as lo a coalition lituvoou mu and tlicv
Kiivurninent«-ilhie«pect to tlm lelorm bjila, I
ilHiuglilii ulioull hue m e ? r from me. 1'
U»pM.'t*id my ?urpiiaa at tlwcmiso t»k6n 111
ragirtilii iiik, snJ ftat'd ilut I thmigh' Ilio'.
respimilility o' I rinin? a new guverniiieiil'
|+Me8 An Vwo who ilifejitod t|,u g.ivcuiiiibiit '
Ue aili Ji .it agtvo intli.E opiniim, ftWi 1 Iiad
njUjiloginoruti io in tlio mat^,,. .1 thought
IJia.d Sjearjy cunvuyed my views totllehmi.
(?entlanau ; hut 1 aulnnqui-mly learned lint
the lion. gcntlemiU' did. nut .umlei,t(nd my
cnumr an* final one-- In ? onmptiueitee «f Mu
intcrvuw, ti which I did -not atUehxo much
iinpntanco as I have bin™ found ?! jthoutd
'hivudona.on itwni*Kt nvening I 'received 'a
linussage .from Mia- Ekcollency lit a friunills1
'hnnau at Si Kilila. I saw hie Exc-llelicV
neit irrarrrltic, and totd h1in'wh«l had pa«»e'd,
'between Mr1, ilatnea and me, and nieniio'nud
'the course I tlipught o(i^lit to ^ie pui?t\et|, ,1
.llieii' rttiiya, and C-pt.. OjarJ»J w.«6 nout fi-r.,
This closed Ilie proceedings with nigaid to
the communications between me, Mr Uaines,
and hi» Euwlluniy. Mr. Chipman next
called on me, and It .Id him an Iwlo e tint it
would bo a great personal inconvenience foi
1110 to lake office. Altar several days, Mr.
Clupman again cslld on me, Mated that a
meeting of c -Main hon. members oi this bnin-e
had beoii hel.l, and a strong opin'on Wat el
pressed that 1 should uk» afflto iu the new
Government. I repeated tb-it it would be a
civat p.rsonal iiiconvunii-nce for me to do so,
but as it waa con»lderi)d dealiMble I should do
fa, I consented, under all the ciictinistanoDa of
the ncaiion, lo accept office, as I did not
join tbe lion, member, Mr. Hsuies— as Capt.
Cltrlte was iinsuccesrful in foioiiug an admi
nii-tratioii — and as a government must be
fumed I accepted olli -e. '1 he e-planaiion I
have made is very brief, and scarcely nsces
st!}', eje^pt to abolijh ihu rumoum dial were
eiiculatcii, pending tbd formation '(' a new
adiiiitti.~tiatic.il Having disused of this, I
mny say I a|-recl with thu hon. tlie attoiny
geueral as to tho desirability that tho xcssion
-hould Iw eaily biought to a tf-riiiiiintion, and
we came to the oonc:u«i-irt to t-lieup t!io mea
sures of ivform only, endeavor to carty it and
not. so far as were concerned, take up any
other measure. That ineasuie would he follv
explained by tlie hm. the att- 1 ney genei al
when he int'nduces it. The m a^u^e has
lieen propped by him with groit care. There
are, however, same meatmen of impoiUnce
affecting trie welfmo of the country, \y;,ich
are of an adminNirative chaiacte, to'which I
would bru'fly allude. Thciv is one 10 which I
have atiaehed giest important^ at nil limes,
and which 1 have succeediwl in inducing my
colleagues 10 see the importance of 1 refer to
a rurvey ol the emintrv. We have appointed
a gentleman 10 the office of f u:\vvor general,
who, no believu to be welt qualified for (lie
pioper dim-huge of tli« duties. 1 do n t in
tend ti go into the nit- riti of Iho scheme pio
poied, tint I woul 1 simply nay that it is in
tended thai the survey mi wild lie an economi
cal ono— that it should bo rapidly carried out,
and that so universally over the whokj colony,
lint jealousies, pnjudici-a, or interehit ill
lei-ests may have n nhing lo cotnpUin
of. Tin;™ ia alpo ano' her question of rqiml if
lint preater iiuporlancu of an administrative
character I lelur to the canying out of rail
ways. Thu house ia a«ar-i that we have
already tikon some action in this matter. Ten
ders had been called for by our prcdeccRnrs,
and theso we decided should I c opened in tho
most public manner by the ICxccuttvu Council.
We have cons'tluted a icip. imible Itoird to
attend iho railway woiki, and Hie whole Rlalf
of the Hoard of Litid and Works in at pre'ent
engaged in ihe cali'iil-tinns leijuiri'd 1,1 bring
out tlioeo piriicular icmiI * in ilie exanitiialiun
01 tenders neces»a'V 1 1 1 liable tlie govutnment
to decide as ton lib h tenuVi ihev aboill accept.
Myself «nd c-loiguos are nn.'imly d.-ii,u?of
iiiaiiit'iuing the public ci.dit i.f ihe colonv in
lenpect to (ho-o railway c, till we enter oil them,
and when we do cuter on luiru, in maintain
Ihe value of our secui iiies. The:e is oue uther
matter of an adiniiiisti alive chitaeter to whi. h
1 would allndo. fieldom a day piiw.ii but I
receive an application for mining l.-asce, and
legnlatioiiii a' to water mpply. Tb-- course
Ukcn by luyiiulf in this maitu wa* -imply to
give ovor ihe proparaiion uf iliosi legidaiioiH
tn the lion, the Sdicitor-liciical who has
always taken a great inteivt in Mich mallei*
and he hai euccc rded in piejjiliug leases and
rcgtihti.mn which I have every ivason to ex
prot will ailord B»li«faction. With ivapeet to
public works generally. t.Ucs would I c ea 1 ied
?in so far as crrciinista1 ces wo'tld allow. Hav
ing made lhi« explanation, [do nit think it
nevevniy lo ci.ter into a detail of all in- Una -f
an admini«tiativcclui«iti;i, but will ivw only
stalo farther, that having entered oflicc, wo
will u»o our utinutt (-iidcivouia to pioiuotu
the wtilfaro of the country.
Mr. Service had noticed tint the Don the
Chief Secretary' in the conras of his lemailis,
staled that on lieing applied to by 11 r. Uhap
m into join his ailniiiii^atinti, he reminded
tint hon. gojiileinauof «h»i he bad f.irutcily
stated to him about his indiileicnco to take
oOice. This led him (Mr. Ssurvici 10 twliave
that Ihe hon ilie now Aitoiiiey-Oeneral was
ono uf the gentlemen who asked him, previous
to Ihe drfent . 1 till government, .1' to his dis
position lojiin a new tuiuNiry. He I bought
this required some eiplaiia-lun— wlu-tlier Mr.
Cluptuan waaendeavouiiiigt iforuiau adminis
tration, including Mr. O'olnnasty, at thai time,
in expectation ol the goveinuio:it being de
tent. -d on a b:]| texpeciing vhieli he and Air.
O'Slmna-KV held di e. tly opposite views
Mr. U'sh .11 iaey lepliud, tlm it was during a
cnnreisatimi wilh nmm Imi. in^inbera who tat
on the same bench'* that tlio oveiture waa
made to httu wi'h re»|eet ti j -ining an ad
ministration. Tboovi-rtuiB, li'iwever. did not
originate wilh Ihe lion the pre^nl. Attoincy
Oeneral. He had omitted 10 utalcti at wl en
Mr Cdapuian (ii*( cailec/ i-n liirn (id saiol, while
declining toj.'iti him, thai he hoped be would
succeed in foniiing a Bluing govern ? cm, aud
lie (Mr. O'Shmiuassy) would support him.
Mr. Uaines then said : 1 am quite willing lo
admit that the statement made by Ihe lion,
member tor Kltiore, in tnibhtantinlly cnn«ct.
In tbo imeiview lelcned lo, he poiiftnd.out to
me hiB abjections to lake part in Lhoroiiimliou
of a new ministry. Ilut 1 did not then believe
bis mind was linally made up on the milter,
othuiuiw) I wiuill hive at uiiee waited on II -«
Enc b-iry apd inl'.nned him I was no longer
in a position to futiu au ndiniirstia-'ion. 1 make
this matoment liecauae I wish to ml inyt-clf
right, as misrepreaeiiiaiious have taken place
re*peoiuiglhi*e interviews. It had been eaid
that in tlio interim I was occupied in. attempt
ing to firm an adminiol ration, Now, I, give
this assertion Hie must unqualified dental, and
beg to BUle ihnt I took n.i Hcpi towaids the
roinnif n of an adiiihiiHu-allon till 1 received a
muisage. from. His Exi-e'lcncy, staunn that t! e
bon membcj' lot Kihiioru had doulinud to join
in tunning a it.iiiiMiy. ihe delay thai uccur
tcd was altogoilur owing to my iiiiMakin^; Iho
hon. momber, and believing that bit niaw, r
wna not tiuA When I intl him I certainly ux
nected to hear fioin h in, and 1 pretsed him at
parting to ccmiitiuni' aie with inn After tlial 1
made 110 luither nllempt to furm au aduiinis
tratiou; It thought it was- dm- to the hon.
mambar lh«t I slwuld wait an lwww item
him. T«o liou-« after hearing fitm-- him, 1
wnlifd- «n His Eicdleney, «ud infurmed l.im
1 hat I cnuld nolnngar aiieinpt in form an ad
iinnixtiaiiou Tlm Imn' fmnilwr h-d r-ttied
that h« Ifidb^lit, for tho BuTie oi their politick
eluraitei', lhey should give no colour 10 th
jiuiiiiiiraufa coaliiion. I may here bear out
the him. nietnlwr and stale, t at all ill isc
iiimnuisweru w:th -ut the IcaH foundation;
fur I never consulted witli'liiui iniesp'-ct In »
coalili.mvm tlt« reform rrfe'^'itva. Th« only
commiinio-itiotw In legard -in-the hilln between
ttielion. nvinbor mrd me M.ik pUc in cum
uiittee; mid there waHUDtlitvntio'h tin Illy p-il
|t'i t.TTln r ni&littnn With ttie hon. lileiinwr till
llhe'lMilttnoriil' 3iin,:ul'iV' .'oyciirirf,. .(lut.lilii
inU thnflt,|c.'-niiili'iing.iMe liilatWi lii\\e lion,
uelijl, map incnocclipu ifitlillioj'ajuialion nl
tljp iiit'g/ivifi ninei.it, my chitaitiT- *h«uld lw .
sllo»ed;lo.6Uiloi' anvthioB tiv juking bun, nu
tbo occinioa .olVrwd til, tn juin mo Inlhefi'i
mrti. e Kif'a mlnUiy. -Whi-nihe late nifiUR
try vwmfifined.-llie hon. mWihcrfor Rllirtnre
wa- anked ti jrtn it: ahl 'Buba':i]ilUlilIj* lie Van
ialied loac.ipt a Wat in jt, ,80^ do not think
1 was in^any w^disciediUhUj'.tq jiiq, t-)j-!ik
liini'again: ttijjjgtit.XuiV».!J'*n diwcdfiable
in m.e, if J.Jiid acted n en tly, jo. thuimm-ri
Iml nmliing of ihai kind ever look place. I do
not suit i« necesxaiy Mrufi-rat gtvatfr lungOi
la IHHYiiHtt'-r. I wnuld remark en'y 4h«ti4n-'
liniK iiHimlierliirEt. Kilda tlie answer ho ca^«
kin,'aorty.-t he JoiuedHriit «drfilnta'rati..ri t
jBlti p!a(S Li hear tlio hull mo iiber Is desitaui
\p-X bfin^ing iho FCssinn to a cl.19'0.' 'Din grfat
leiiplh of Ihe bc.h-Iom had lieoii very inenn .
venient anl iletiiiiieiit.l 10 iho puhlio ei-ivioe
It. was too much 10 «X|iect that puhlio nflicuis
nhmi:d for m l.:nx ??- peiiud la) hu« till a late
hour, an I attend also 10 adm'llift'»tivo ma't«rs
dining theilay, and I think it advisable llml
Ihe session should an hi in an pwB'ble he brought
10 a close. 1 rhnuld mu h reg'el if the govern
ment in bringing forwa d their Ueform Uill
should nuiit a minority clause (bear, hoar) and
I hope Ihi-y will ih-msilve., support it. How
evi-r, under Iho peculiar ciicunisiances of Ihe
colony, I 'hink tin. rhiuld hu left an open ques
tion — not on principle— hut under the ciieum
(Unci-aio which ihe colmy ismproient placed.
I I hi 11k lh« nriiistry wou.d he ju-tirlrd in
milting it an opnn question. Open que-tions
are -a-d to be cunning ?'ipcrtii'nm for Ihe henelit
of tho-e who am 1110 « dc-iioui. to keep their
places than their pnn:ipb-H. -llear, heat). 1
liO|Xi. however. Ibis will nut be drn«n into a
picvdunr. Allquesiions of conseienee t think
Khoi)hl ha left npi'ii questioiia, and that is the
limit we Bh.ulil liave 11 mi r oidinary ciicum
i-tiiives. 1 should livo lilted Ibe honourable
in 'inber In hive heen 111010 explicit in regard
to ihu R'fo in Uill ; but I iuippii-c he reseives I
what bn has in nay nil h ? introduces thu mca- 1
sure. Ishullbe willing ti c i-n|eraio with any !
miiiii-tiy in cinying a reform hill, il It contain
k uiin ui'y clause; hut I slial' opposo any bill
in which such a clause is omitted
Mr. H-.iriB Hated that tlr. O'Shanamy, on
leaving tlr. llaiues on the occasion of the in
terview, iiif.inned him lhat ho had distinctly
assured the hon metiibcr (Mr. llaiuen) that he
would nm jnin in anv niiiiidry.
Mr. tt'o.hd n\i ha did nut promise lo give
bis unqualified nupput Id Ihe governnent.
lie informed Mr. Ohapuan that he di-agie.d
with some of his vicaa, and objected (- two
getitlenieil in hia ministry who had used their
endeavors 1 1 tui n out the previous minify.
In general he agreed wilh tho views of Iho
new ministry, and wuuld give them general
support,
wr. Service concurred in tho adviiabil'ly of
the res'ion being binui'bt t - a close as early as
piw»ihlc ; but ho thought it would greatly fi
cilitite ill' seltlem-iit.il the land question if
' the government . ef ire tho di6«olulion would
Uy their proponed land scheme before thu
t bouse, (laughtei.) The Und questi ,11 would
: lie Uii leetitli! question at the clcclioii', and if
I no definite lino ol policy were before the coun
' tiy on thewi'j-ict (ho result next year would
! be' similar to tuat of the put year.
j Tin Sp':«k-r here informed iho Imn. mem
ber 1 bat he was uot iu order iu proceeding
with such lemaiks.
' Mr IXoire, in reference tn a paragraph iu
Herald ne»'»j-aper, which hi) wipjioxed w s
now ib« gnvariuiipiit organ, Rtatiug ih«t plans
had been puMi-he-1 for ilie. fi;M lime of Ibe
agr cultural Muds nea.' Cs-n-i l.iti, put up for
sale- \k the former anil wilhdr u 11 I y ihu pr.t
Msiitgoveiuiuent, and lhat it was put up in
lots— Home as laiffe as 4tW acres, mill he had
referred back l- i wilni.-ins in reference ti thin
niatu'i, and hi foiiml a proelimation digued bv
himself on -ih.; 22nd Feb. nary of (he mrvey of
thu landi alluded to, and lhat iho pUus ueru
made on ihu Kih of Match. Of the thi ty
nme lorn conip i-cd, not I'lia uf those put up
fir sale ainnuuieu to 400 ac « Hu betievul
bis Inn. Kiiirer-S'.r would do bun juntice in re
gaul ti 1 his iDtltnir.
Jlr Duify replied lhat he would always bo
glad lo d 1 jualie.. 1 1 t'i.- h -u. mcmlier in any
pailienlai that foil within hi kn.nvli-dgc; but
hi- had been bimily eng«ged in tlio Public
Woiks ..fli« all day, and hid n.t Imd time to
look al any ii.-wspa'iwr, He msuied tlie boo
iiiember that he had, no knowledge u to who
wruto thepingiaph.
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