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The report of this game, won by St. Kilda by 12 goals 10 behinds (82 points) to 6 goals 8 behinds (44 points), will be found on page 12.  



The meeting of South Melbourne and Fitzroy was looked upon by the thousands of spectators who   crowded the Fitzroy ground to provide a good game     —and they were not disappointed, for the result remained in doubt until the finish, Fitzroy winning   rather luckily by three points. McLennan in the

early stages had his nose fractured, but he played

on, with his face half-hidden in lint.  

South began quickly, Tandy forwarding to Cald- well, and then nice work between Franks and Sloss gave S. Hiskens a goal. Fitzroy threw their weight into the attack, and great centre work by McLen- nan and McArthur got past South's defence, and Freake, from a running shot, scored. He had several shots following, but over-eagerness when in   front and plenty of attention from South's de-   fenders spoilt his opportunities. Fitzroy were play-    

ing down the centre—their long, driving kicks   being more effective than South's short passing.   Heaney, forward, was marking well, but his kick- ing was not so sure. South could not make any impression and Fitzroy pressed for a time, and Freake got his second goal. Great ruck work by Willoughby, Wells and Shaw swept South aside,   and Martin scored Fitzroy's third goal, and at       quarter-time the scores were—Fitzroy, 3 goals 6         behinds; South, 1 goal 1 behind.  

South were settling down, and even play by both teams lent interest; but Fitzroy emerged from the second quarter with four goals, as against three   by South. Lane showed his judgment in allow-   ing a fair margin of latitude, which helped ma-       terially to keep the game fast and open. Prince   and Eastick led the way for South, and Mortimer,   cleverly beating Bamford, passed to Webster, who scored. South came again, and Bower put Fitzroy   in a tight comer, but Cooper relieved finely, and McArthur, following on, carried the ball forward   with a brilliant run. Freake judged the mark well     and scored. Rusich, Bower, and Sloss formed a string, which, however, was snapped by Johnson, and Willoughby, Bamford, and McArthur beat down South's defence, and Freake had an easy       shot, which he missed. Harrison, however, ran in quickly and scored Fitzroy's fifth goal. Caldwell     and McArthur were concerned in a hot duel, and Belcher, coming at the right moment, shot for goal, but Bamford's defence was too much for     South's forwards. Hiskens and Strang gave Mor-     timer a shot, which he made good, and Strang   quickly dropped another. South's system came   uppermost for a time, and by combined action they were picking up their leeway. McLennan's centre play was brilliant. Freake got a lucky goal the   ball dribbling through. South for a time were beaten everywhere and Heaney scored another goal   just before the interval. At half-time Fitzroy led   to 7 goals 7 behinds to 4 goals 2 behinds.    

Neither side troubled the scorers much in the   third quarter as only one goal was got by each. Martin's goal from a long place was a splendid   effort. Franks returned the compliment for South     after being pushed in front. South attacked     strongly, but could not break Fitzroy's defence   line; and good work by their backs was wasted, for their forwards could not aid them. Thereafter   it was a series of fitful rallies by both teams, but     the defence was always stronger than the attack.  

Martin, however, should have got a goal, for Heaney, after a brilliant run, passed to him close   in. He marked finely, but kicked badly. South's   strong rushes, however, wore out the opposition,   and Franks eventually scored a minor point. But the fast, snappy play which characterised the    

opening stages was missing, and consequently the game dragged on heavily, and Lane was busy penalising infringements. At three-quarter time     Fitzroy led by 8 goals 10 behinds to South's 5

goals 6 behinds.  

The last quarter saw the best football of the match. Fitzroy started with a lead of 22 points,   which gradually declined to 3. South beat them- selves through faulty shooting—ten shots resulting in only two goals. Prince set the ball rolling, and   Kelly, backing up, passed to Mortimer, who hit the post. South swept forward again, and looked dangerous, and the Fitzroy skipper sent Heaney back to strengthen the defence. Kelly's long shot     was marked by Johnson between the posts, and     soon after he tried another, which was similarly   marked by McLennan, who dashed away across the centre. But South were making desperate   efforts, and Rusich got another point. Fitzroy were helpless against the furious onslaughts of the Southerners. Rusich in a crush in front scored,   and only nine points separated them. Fitzroy   made a dying effort to turn the tide, and Toohey got a behind. But South would not be put aside,

and a furious rush ended in Kelly scoring from a tangle in front. South's supporters were frantic,     and Fitzroy's hopes were almost shattered, for only   three points separated them. But Bamford's fine run saved his side from nasty position right in   goal, and South were beaten, for the bell rang with the scores—Fitzroy, 8 goals 11 behinds (59 points); South,7 goals 14 behinds (56 points).      

Fitzroy owe their win chiefly to the sureness of their forwards in the first half and by South's poor       kicking at the finish. The winners were best served   by McLennan (centre), Holden, McArthur (wing), Willoughby, Wells, and Shaw (ruck), Bamford, Lethbridge, Johnson, and Cooper (back), Freake,   Martin, and Parratt (forward); whilst South's most   prominent men were Webster, Thomas, Hiskens, (back), Bower (centre), Prince and Tandy (wing),

Kelly, Mortimer, S. Hiskens, Strang (forward), and Belcher, Caldwell, and Franks (ruck). Lane um-   pired a hard game with judgment.  



The small number of spectators who saw the match on the Melbourne ground between Essendon and University were rewarded with a remarkable  

finish, in which Essendon made a desperate rally   in the last few moments, and won the game by

2 points.  

Essendon had four juniors in the team, Parkin-     son and Gordon (Elsternwick), Laing (Beverley),   and Gore (Collegians) replacing Shea, Woolley, McNeil and Pike. University had a good side,

Martin, Jones, Doubleday, Kelly, West, and

Heron reappearing.  

A strong wind, favouring the east goal, gave University an excellent opening in the first   quarter. They made good use of their chances,   although the headwind made the goal-kicking  

somewhat difficult. Two behinds were got early, and then Kerr gave Walker the opportunity to   score first goal, and Park with excellent judgment

sent up second goal. Chalmers, of Essendon, in         trying for a mark, came down heavily, and was   assisted off the ground with a fractured collar-      

bone, and Essendon played a man short the rest     of the game. University pressed the attack, and two goals were added by McLeod and Willis. At   the first change University had scored 30 points

to nil.

In the second quarter University set up a strong       defence and by holding the high marks excellently they were able to keep Essendon from scoring   for some time. With half the quarter gone Baring with a free kick got the first Essendon goal. The     game became crowded, and there was much bumping in the ruck. In a dash for the ball Tait ran into the fence. He recovered after a while, and resumed play. At the interval Uni- versity led by 10 points.

The next quarter was fairly even, Essendon showing some improvement, especially in attack,

although they were still dropping marks. Lums- den got the first point against the wind. White was conspicuous in defence for Essendon, showing fine dash. Doubleday got a nice goal for Univer- sity, and after two behinds were added Belcher, Parkinson, Sewart, and Lumsden, with a series of exchanges, took the ball from end to end, and   Tait, who was now in goal, marked right in   front, and punted Essendon's third goal.    

Essendon, with the wind in their favour, had a leeway of 16 points to make up when the last quarter was started. The red and black got to

work quickly, and Armstrong and Lumsden scored   goals from the ruck. University then took com-

mand of the game, and two goals were added by   Park and Little. They seemed to have the game   well in hand. There was some desperate hard play, however, and Essendon gradually broke     through the defence. With about five minutes to     go Essendon wanted three goals to win. Baring and Lumsden got two of them with fine kicks. There was just time to make another rush before the bell rang, and in that time Gordon marked half-forward. Before he could kick the gong   sounded, but he did not hesitate, and with the confidence of a veteran kicked for goal, and got it amidst great excitement in the Essendon camp. It was a grand finish, but the merits of the game were with University, who were distinctly un-

lucky to lose.

For Essendon, Baring was again a fine player in the ruck, and an excellent game was capped

with four goals. All the new men showed good   promise. Laing has plenty of dash, Gore showed that he can rove, and Gordon was well placed

forward. In the later stages Belcher and Bowe     were very conspicuous. Hanley worked well in  

the ruck, and Lumsden did well.

For University, Hurrey in the centre, Little and   Atkins roving, McLeod ruck, Willis half-forward,   Jones on the wing, Doubleday and Kelly half- back, and Vines back were all fine players.  



Melbourne found Geelong with a weak side at the wind-swept Corio ground, and but for the loss   of the wind in the last quarter might have won. Of the Geelong regulars, W. Eason, Armstrong, Marsham, Dalton, and Baker were missing, and   they had to call up three of their reserves, Scho- field, Rankin, and Nankervis. Melbourne had Incigneri and Hendrie available again, and tried Edwards, of Beverley, and Knight, an old Geelongite.      

The game was never skillful, and the only feature   that gave it interest was a good recovery. With their first scoring shot, A. Eason hit the post, and was conspicuous in many scrambling rushes, which saw Lugton and Pearce defending finely. Grigg   got their first goal with a place-kick, but thereafter     Melbourne kept them out on the wings, and by  

short passing between Incigneri, George, and Has-   sett to Edwards, and Hassett again, got a well-   deserved goal, in the teeth of the wind. Geelong crossed over with the insufficient lead of 4 points, but kept Melbourne out of game for a long period. Twelve minutes had gone before they came with       a burst of 3 goals, scored by Joolan, Knight, and Hendrie. Geelong had four scoring shots for as many points. Heinz, after a great dash by Slater, put the ball through, but it had grazed Pearce's  

arm. The half time score, Melbourne 4-1 to 1-8,

made the Geelong people anxious.

Matters looked gloomy for more than half the third term, through Geelong's forwards getting too  

far under the ball, and kicking badly. Hendrie     led off by kicking a behind for Melbourne, and then   Martin hit the top of the post in a long try. Fourteen minutes had gone before Grigg broke     through a crush, and snapped their second goal,

which gave them a lead of a point. The third came from a brilliant effort by Heinz, and Martini, after   an acrobatic mark, at last found the opening. A       16 points lead at the last change looked more com-   fortable when the wind died right away, and robbed Melbourne of the assistance they had hoped for. Even so, Melbourne made a very poor show-  

ing, and Geelong would have scored heavily but for the superb marking of Allen. Orchard domi-

nated the play for Geelong, who played the forcing   game. Martini had four chances, but was not

deadly, one shot 20 yards away hitting the post.   The final score was:—Geelong, 4 goals 23 behinds;  

Melbourne, 4 goals 2 behinds. The visitors only       scored one point after half-time.  

Orchard, the acting captain, set his side a fine example, and received good assistance from Slater,   Grigg, Alex. Eason, Heinz, Johns, R. Brownless,   Scown, and Rankin. Melbourne's best were Lug-       ton, Pearce, Allen, Hendrie, Lilley, Monk, McKen-    

zie, and Incigneri.



Carlton and Richmond attracted only a moder-   ate attendance to Prince's Oval. The rain had     put the playing ground in splendid order. Rich-     mond players were wearing black arm-bands out   of respect for the memory of the father of B.   Herbert, a former player. Evans (Carlton Dis- trict), Hanna (North Melbourne) and Curtis (Col- legians) were tried in the Carlton team, Sharpe Triplett, and Williamson being out, while Twomey (Carlton District) and Phillips replaced Ricketts   and McCashney in the Richmond eighteen.

Richmond had first use of the wind, which slightly favoured the eastern goal. Carlton were first to attack, getting within range several times, but Richmond got the first point. Play was very even, the outstanding feature being the fine de- fence of Baud, who cleared his goal repeatedly when Richmond looked like scoring. Carlton made better use of their opportunities, and from long shots Gardiner and Green scored goals, while Richmond's only goal for the quarter was kicked   off the ground by Martyn from an acute angle.   Carlton led by six points at the first change.  

Moran, McDonald, and Green took play right     to the posts, but Thorpe dashed away to the wing, then a free kick to Bruce enabled Carlton to   get third goal. It looked as if Carlton were in for a big score, as Wells from a good mark at   long range covered the distance with a straight kick. Richmond came with a rush, and Hall and

Keggin placing Martyn in possession, he made no   mistake; then the ruck forwarded again, and the     same player got third goal from a snapshot. Hall,  

Maybury, Reeves, and Phillips gave Richmond an       opening, but Baud, Wells, and Gardiner carried the ball to the other end, and Green ran close in and scored. In a Richmond rally Maybury,   Mahoney, and Twomey got behinds. The scores at   half-time were: Carlton, 5 goals 3 behinds; Rich-     mond, 3 goals 5 behinds.

Carlton were first away again, and Challis hit the post, this being the third time Carlton had     missed goals in this way. Then Gardiner's shot     was marked by Curtis near the boundary, but he played out to Haughton, a goal resulting. Ohlsen,         was doing splendid work in Richmond's ruck, and     he and Maybury enabled Burns to get a behind.  

Ohlsen marked from Oliver, and a fine kick gave

Richmond six points. Oliver evoked applause by         a run from half-back to half-forward, where he      

lost the ball, and then Baud did likewise for Carlton. Mahoney, assisted by James, enabled        

Martyn to kick Richmond's fifth, and his own       fourth goal. Carlton's anxiety to keep in the lead resulted in Richmond obtaining numerous         free kicks, mainly for technical breaches. Twice Green missed with running shots, and Moran and Valentine got behinds. Green played to Gardiner       who ran close in and scored, leaving the Dark Blues     with a lead of 11 points at the final change.

The defence on both sides was splendid. Clever hand-passing by Morgan, James, Mahoney, and         Hall deserved more than the single point obtained. From the kick in, Valentine passed to Challis,     who dashed towards goal, and played to Curtis, from whom Green secured and scored. Richmond     made a determined effort to reduce the gap, and Martyn, who was marking splendidly, first missed       and then got a behind. A run by Morgan gave   Martyn another chance, from which he got a goal. Reeves and Hall led another attack, which McDon- ald intercepted, but in mistake hit over to Burns,   who scored seventh goal, leaving Richmond only six points in arrears, with five minutes to play.  

The visitors again attacked, and looked like   scoring, but Clancy dashed away, and successive     free kicks to Marchbank and Green enabled the lat-    

ter to get ninth goal, making victory for Carlton assured. The final scores were: Carlton, 9 goals   9 behinds; Richmond 7 goals 9 behinds.  

A peculiarity of the game was that at the be- ginning of each quarter Carlton were playing the better football, while Richmond improved as

each term progressed. On the winning side,   Baud was a tower of strength in defence, while  

Haughton, Dick, and Moran, whether in the ruck or placed were always prominent. Evans made a   promising debut as a wing man, and Wells, McDon-       ald, Valentine, and Green (3 goals) performed cre-   ditably.

Richmond's best were Hall and Maybury (roving     and forward), Ohlsen, James, and Moffatt (fol- lowing and placed), Martyn, who got five goals;

Danks, Thorpe, Burns, Reeves, Morgan, and  



St. Kilda . . . . | 5-6 | 6-7 | 9-9 | 12-10 | 82

Collingwood . . | 0-1 | 2-5 | 4-7 | 6-8 | 44

| 1st | 2nd | 3rd |

Match. |Q'ter.|Q'ter.|Q'ter.|Final.|Points.          



Fitzroy .. .. .. .. .. | 14 | 2 | .. | 64 | 56 | 87

Collingwood .. .. .. | 13 | 3 | .. | 64 | 52 | 81

South Melbourne .. | 12 | 3 | 1 | 64 | 50 | 78

St. Kilda .. .. .. .. | 10 | 6 | .. | 64 | 40 | 62 Carlton .. .. .. .. .. | 9 | 6 | 1 | 64 | 38 | 59 Geelong .. .. .. .. .. | 8 | 8 | .. | 64 | 32 | 50

Richmond .. .. .. .. | 5 | 11 | .. | 64 | 20 | 31 Essendon .. .. .. .. | 5 | 11 | .. | 64 | 20 | 31

Melbourne .. .. .. .. | 3 | 13 | .. | 64 | 12 | 18

University .. .. .. .. | .. | 16 | .. | 64 | .. | ..


VICTORIA V. SOUTH AUSTRALIA.     The selection committee of the Victorian Foot-   ball League (Messrs. N. R. Fleming, E. P. Ken-     nedy, and G. Brosnan) met on Saturday evening,  

and chose the following team to represent Vic- toria in the match against South Australia at the   Melbourne Cricket-ground next Saturday:—A.       Baud, H. Haughton (Carlton). F. Baring (Essen-   don), J. Cooper W. Johnson, H. McLennan (Fitz- roy), H. Marsham, P. Martin (Geelong), H. Ton-    

kins (Melbourne), H. James (Richmond), J. Cald- well, B. Sloss, W. Thomas (South Melbourne), E. V. Collins, H. Lever, W. Schmidt (St. Kilda) , L.

H. Kelly, R. L. Park (University). The team will meet at the League rooms on Wednesday    

evening, at half-past 7, to select a captain and  







North Melbourne lost their position at the head of the premiership list on Saturday by being de- feated by Brunswick in the presence of about 4,000   spectators. The game was remarkable for almost from the start North Melbourne supporters seemed  

to have made up their minds that their captain, S. Barker was not doing his best. There had been  

some discussion during the week regarding the personnel of the North Melbourne team. It was stated that Barker had declined to have E. Gar-   diner (a son of the veteran North Melbourne player, Councillor James Gardiner) in the team, on the ground that he was only a back player, and

the North Melbourne defence was strong enough.  

Gardiner was not selected, and his omission caused no end of partisan feeling. It was early in the game when the barrackers began to heckle him

and to jeer at him, to greet any success which

attended his efforts with ironical cheers. At three quarter time a member of the committee   went out on to the ground and told the players   what people were saying, and his remarks were received with deep resentment. As the teams left the playing field the crowd hooted Barker soundly,

and then a couple of hundred people waited for   the North Melbourne captain until he emerged from the dressing-room, surrounded by several of   the team and a body-guard of police. They     crowded round, and followed him up the road to the British Hotel, at the corner of Arden street.

After waiting for some time they discovered that Barker and his friends had quietly slipped out by a back door, and had gone away. The crowd, after       waiting for some time, quietly dispersed. Mean- while the North Melbourne committee had held a hurried meeting, at which they decided on taking action. In order to obtain a full meeting of the committee they adjourned until yesterday morn- ing, when they decided to instruct the selection   committee not to choose either Barter or Elliott until further notice. This decision of the North Melbourne committee, coming as it does just prior to the semi-finals, will cause a sensation. Per- sonally, I could see nothing in Barker's play to   warrant such drastic action. I thought he was

playing a particularly hard game, without any luck, and, though not as successful as usual, it was not to be wondered at that, jeered at as he was, he should not be in his best form. I heard his speech to the team before they entered the field,   and it seemed to me a manly utterance of a man who realised the strength of his opponents, and was urging his men to do their best. The North Mel-

bourne committee, however, were very sore at their   defeat, and if they had grounds for suspicion, are   to be commended at taking the action they did.   My own impression of the game was that Bruns- wick were the cleverer, more systematic side, and also had the advantage in pace.

The wind was hlowitutr almost slrai lit across the grjimd and North Mell ourne ittocke t at one*

Hieir first advance vis checked Iv Krai i but Mchaj came in again ind with i free kiel on tin wing fccored i t ifc j-onl Hrunswicl weic falling into their old mistake of too much hin)

ball and the game became crowded, but suddenly it opened out and quick pasfdng ly McKenzie, Harker bullirán and 0 Connor gave Stevenson a chance and a goal Their next attack waa turned

tit I Johnson, and Barker hit-ant-; out cleverly tt), (lit* little, niau dillie! awuj, but lires deflected tin- attack to the wing \ cold driving shower made things uticotnfortal.k ftu everybodv, but it soon passed nwaj lhere was a good deal of ruck plat, in which North prevailed, but the Brunswick luck» Kept them off, until Hardy and Ilcha» working well together, the former snapped a behind-i moment later from a free kiel« he miss«! b-ldlj . hen a free kick to O'Connor, foi

lowed bv good pla*, b*, McKcnrJc, give Harker a cllance anti lie scored with a benutiful drop kick rrom tile bounce Chai*, brought it eiovvn again, and Mehenxie led an attack, which resulted in Harker landing tin hill in front, mid Sullivan tin nul it in for third goa! Again Wchcnslc ful his for wards, uid bulli» m snapped another god Price lost nu opportunity bv foolihl. luudbill and Jones brilliant h relieved tin» pressure Twice lltrdj forward, hut Brnnswittlc were plajing flnelv, and good work bv Sich.lude, O Connor, Cliuntlltr, and Harl.r enabled Sullivan to simp unotber goal Then North rillicd, and onlj a towering mirk b) Boss kept them off, but Hawkins mil Pemberton (who was forward looking after cunio at it igam, nn.l Pemberton got a behind Out.

1 goal t behind*,

-Nord. Melbourne went oil ni .. grtut bat to wipe out this long lead, mid Walsh und Carptnler, the two it South Melbourne men were prominent, hut llraid turntd them lack, and "MÜÍB MI the w heat i over badlv, but Cirpenter and Hawkin*! t h .ck again and llardv dm|>i« d a [_ood goal

dtfenc.' bv McEeod ind llraid and good centre play bj Jones were the nett incidents lint n pasMng rush bj Sullivan, O Connor, Harker mid Price brought the magpies a point It was a hurd game, with Sheehan, Heron and llardv prominent in at 'flclc, and Braid Boss, und Cilletpio loremost in defence until Walsh und laver sent the ball to Keith loluison, the old Brighton Graiuniarian, and he scored North's third goal clcv.rlj Boss turned one Northern rush, hut good play bj Car pentci and 1 lliott put the latter in IKISM_SS.O.., and he ftcorid from whit appeared to he mi impossible ingle North Mere within four point- of the magpies then, but not for long, for Carne and ¡.»tevonson, plujing wide, let Price in for u goal snapped on tile run The game was Increasing in pice and force and in a crush Stevenson went down with it crash on the jaw Then a ouick Northern rush bj P.unbefion, linrdj, Mid Car-pen ter hrougi.t j goal from the bitters lwot llardv

as ven prominent jus! then, ind eicju side uddc.1

lichind Wien O Connor and Itoss gut it up Trc loir and Sheelinii sent it lia.-, ind Keith Johnson overdid i run, and lost the ball, hut Uardt added . point In a dual rally before half lune Uninswlck got close In and Pnce tipped it through, leaving Hie scores - Dninswici, 7 goals 1 behind-. North Me llrournc r. goals G behind«

North "lellourne's rue!, Harker, JtcKiy, lind Haxdj, attacked at onie, and_MtKnv, from a free kick, got a poml Ilavvl ins marked the kick in, and i'lliott, well rerved h> Carpenter, missed a very easv clianec Again liawlins nmrkeei the Mek in lind though C1, is gave the magpies temporär,) re lief Hnrdv sent the ball to Car|ietitcT, and he got uti casj goal, leaving Brunswitk onlj i point Jilead Thtv quicklj added three liehind*«, *md then \\ als!, s cleverness outwitted O Connor on the wing It was a burel, Here, game, wltli Brunswick defend ...". soimdlv tor a while ind forth .Melbourne add nig behu.ds. Brilliant work bv nardj gave Bnrkir i clian.-c, hut lie mulled the mirk, and was told prett» plnlnlv bv the harmckers of his error nie game was being plived des|.entelj, and there were several bad decisions, but no more scoring of note     until, at three-quarter time, the scores were:—     Brunswick, 7 goals 9 behinds; North Melbourne, 6 goals 10 behinds.  

When they began again good play by Jones, Bar-     ker and Keith Johnson was nullified by Gillespie,   who swept them away. A wonderful save by Ross and quick passing between Price, Stancliffe,   and Carrie enabled McKenzie to snap eighth goal   for Brunswick. North Melbourne rallied and twice McLeod kept them off, but Chase, Chandler, and Harker gave Stevenson an opening, from which only a point came, and with six minutes gone Brunswick were two goals ahead. Good play by Sheehan and Barker, and marks in defence by McKenzie and Ross, preceded a charge by Hawkins,   who downed George. At the other end Treloar de- fended splendidly, and though Ross, Mills, and Harker attacked again, Barker and Jones got it down and Carpenter scored North's seventh goal.

The quarter was almost half over when McKenzie and O'Connor led an attack which brought the       magpies a couple of points. Walsh brought it back with a good run down the pavilion wing, and McLeod was busy in defence. The play was all  

over the ground for a while, both sidis playing desperately, but North could not break through, McLeod doing two men's work, and beating Elliot     badly. Two more points came to Brunswick, who were missing badly now, and gradually the mag- pies forged ahead, and Sullivan and O'Connor scored goals, and when the bell rang the score was:—

Brunswick .. .. .. 10 goals 11 behinds—71 points. North Melbourne .. 7 goals 10 behinds—52 points.

Nearly every man on the Brunswick side did well. O'Connor and Mills, on the wings, were   too fast and clever for Heron and Laver; but in the centre Jones, on the day, had more to say than Chandler. Braid, Ross, and McLeod were   splendid defenders, and McKenzie's cleverness,     whether roving or forward, made him a most use- ful man. He handled his team with great judg- ment, and might, I think, be bracketted with Sullivan as champion of the side. Sullivan played a particularly good game. Harker was busy for- ward, and Gillespie and Price might also be specially mentioned.

North Melbourne were best served by Hardy, who roved splendidly, but had to make his own openings more than usual. McKay followed very well, and though Barker was not as successful as usual, he seemed to me to be working hard. Sheehan, either back or following, was very use-   ful; and Pemberton, Keith Johnson, Carpenter, Walsh, Treloar, Miles, and Hawkins were often   under notice, but, as a whole, the team was not the equal of its opponents. Hurley umpired, but

made a number of mistakes.



There was an attendance of about 5,000 watch-   ing the meeting of Essendon and Williamstown, on the latter's ground, where tile keen soutlierlj wini made it uncomfortable for plnjors and spec- tators aide ll.e gum was hard, nnd towards Hie «nish developed into one of tactics in which W illumstowii, against the strong bree-e, proved 'adepta in a fin und honourable vviv, and shnplv Iran the 'Dins to i standstill Bj this win, Wil

lium«town uceomplishi d the feut of luring heat, n tlds seuson, on tin Point Gellibrand ground, tuth of tin othtr nint club, m Hie i«sociution lind I tlitj bein on!v l.rlf us successful on ' foreign *

grounds, i pluce in Hie first four would have been

| assured

¡ I'ssendon were without Walktr and Williams

town niau mist-id 1ergu«on, their wing mau Al though Williamstown had the udvauUge ot the wind for ii start 1 ssendon attlekctl, M Madden und Pain leading Higgle, Cl.rkc, and Hoire prtssing it, the latter scoring the Hist behind llicu I1 ehieily due to (..bhs s dasli, O'Halloran and Grant

added behn .Is for Williamstown, and McTiiggart, being pushed seenred an eisy goal lhere was much stnggllng and uninteresting phv ' Cow» s

forwards were all too near the centre, and th... I plovers gcnenllv were fumbling Hie ball \ I to this, the locals plijcd into the visitors' lund-, bv mating for the Morris street, instead of the beich wing i fault thev remedied, however, m the third quarter lor the last Itali of the quirttr

the 'Dons were on top Clarke, out of four shots, ( getting a goal, und at the change of end*, l_.en.lon led by I potnts (1-ii to 1-2) lust as the visitor-, had kept Williamstown under restraint, so .««on

dons scoring was limited to 2 (.oils (Atkins and. Clarke) 1 behind to 'Town's two minor .units making 1-ssendon *î-ti to 1-!

Williamstown, piotitmg bj their error ni the oinming quarto, nude straight for Hie beich wing ! on evcrj ]»ssiblc occasion, and quleklj wiped

out tile detlcit Vmj and Gibbs got goals and with tlie help or 1 bthlnds, Milllamstown <,aincd . lead of 1 point-1-7 to S-ti Grant, from a free lick, gol «heir fourth goal, and then Ciarle obtained tin visitors fourth Amj with a run ninj shot, ful-3 HO j mis out, 1 ¡ti ed th. bet go.l of the da\, the wind carrjing the bill well ov er Mclntvre's lu id McDonald forward for i spoil I icked the locals' sixth goal, and at three quarter time Williunstonii were 10 points to the

good-0-11 to 1-7

I or lo nunutcH W illuimslown not onh kept'their

opponents at hij, but. Gibbs, after Borne trill» I pljj, ran almost into goal, and his shot struck I the goa! post Then Clarke and Bickford (from ' a doubtful mark) got toals whilst a couple of. b.hinds wire also added to Ijtsendon's tnllj and Williamstown s lend carne down to 1 points \ hird te mug gime, confined to the Morris -,-treit vtitig ensutd when Rcilmnn broke through, p.r.,ed to *ml who shot the ball to Mel ig_*irt who hoisted the seventh gol! from it running shot ml (he gum. ended in a will for W llliamstown hi [. points, Hie scores being -Williamstown 7 gnils 12 bellin.!« (u! points), 1 'sendon, 0 goals 0 beliuids

(Pi points)

Rcltmin (eaptain) and Gihlis (roving) were I im.loubt.sllj the two best plajcrs on tilt itHinin*

snie The former's mature judgment and ox" i perlence stood the leam» o Halloran ' Mflaggnrt, ant! (.mut worked untiring!, in the ruck lim (in the second halt), McDonald, Alle»

N Bushridg., Harrison, Drooler (nt time«) and i Wallis also rendered c\ce1!cnt service ' ,

Hoare was prnbalil» (he most conspicuous min on Hie losing side ind handled the ha)! more thin

ant other pla j er on Hie field Bickford (hack in' ' roving), McIntyre (full back), Sevior, Atkins,     M. and J. Madden, Cochram, Clarke (4 goals), Diggle, Pain, and Gibson were all useful.  


There was not a large attendance at Footscray's   last "home" match willi Brighton, »c1 those who  

did attend saw some really fine foothill-up to half time at all events-and some excellent um piring bj Herbert

hootscrnv had a strong team aliild, whilst Brlgh ton tried titree new men- out named Utan, ti for ward from Moorabbin liiere was i strong vvind blowing into the coiner near where i fine new drill Itali is in course of erection TJu. Tricolours were keen right from tin jump-their exchanging side passing, and concerted work curri»! out witli uiicmns accuraej on the forward lines Brighton s defenders, Dowding and Negro, eiid a lot of good work, hut tiley could not keep I ootscrnj luck goals being recoreled b» Cotton Holmes, Iljn' burj, and Bixtcr- the result of some fine passing and clever tunning '

Tlie visltorB were well served in the nick, Grit-1 ham getting Hie scud«, out of uuitj au kuara positions rollouing up a move aioru the wing Peddle sent it to Comer, who scored-the onlj' clianec Brighton lud in the first term, but when tliej crossed over thev soon got into a scoring posi

tion and led a strong attick Peddle snipped i clever (.oil over his lu id Bthlnds followed btvcral other nltcjupts until ' hesitation" in kicking oil bv Harris (a peculiar decision b» the umpire), «ave a pin .It) goal to the visitors "I he breeve fresh cued for the bi*asidors, and Coiner, from a difficult angular position, sticwed Brighton's fourth goal,

and Htontc on the pljj hecam. itally fast and in ' t. resting McClusktj and Nielson were noUcc able in turning man» ilUcks Bauburj was clusiic and clever but failed to kick straight with three consetutivc tries, ind when Itym «cured ti» next

li.g point for Brighton, placing them in the lend, I the visitors' olticnls waxed warm Marking mag I mile.ntl», C1 irk sent it to Cotton, but a (Ino ¡dg /at, run was onlj rewarded with a "poster " n.e b. li brought breathing space and up to this s'are

fiber, el. mer toothill could not ho vvitnesttd . the score« too, we-e jp excellent reuet of the


Hie excitement wis not maintained, because I-ootscnv improved nnd eilsplayed form equal to their best-i long way ahead of anything seen in their last three engagements, dash after dahli yielded goals. Dowding did some flue work, but it was all too evident that Brighton were now

r matched not in the nick wlicrc Graham, Turnbull and Boiler wcro alwiys doiiur much good 1 ootficray's abn would have shocked William Tell or any of his descendants todav, very easy chances being misled willi melancholy continuaiee up against the post«. Tile last quarter was n re pitition, save on one occisión Rvan got n goal after Graham had hit the post for Brighton

I ootscmy showed hy their form in this match that they are coming back" to themselves, and their supportera wem evei fco much more hopeful about their chances of annexing the premiership

On the winning side Archie Clark was very bril liant; Cotton roved well, Baxter (with a heavily bandaged wrist) was busy and bright, Harris "saved" repeatedly, and one saw a lot of good play from Lever, McCluskey, Nielson, Banbury,

and Craddock.  

Brighton were well served by the untiring Beller, Graham (ruck), Dowding, Turnbull, Buck- ley, Henderson, and Negro.



Northcote always play a good game on their own ground at Croxton Park mid several teams which have aspirations for the pennant have had \crv narrow escapes there this wason Northcote arc just n little below the standard required at pre Kent to have a say in the fin ils but mi their own ground trouble mnv be nlwavs apprehended On Snturdty Htcy met Prahran and In the flrfct quart ci when the wind favtured them the game was slightly in favour of Northcote They seemed to have beneiltod very considerably by their match with Brunswick on the previous ''nturdav thev were ultogttber a better drilled nnd more form id able organisation and from the first Prahpan were obviouslv puclcd Tliey had come in the ccpecta lion of a sure thing and found their opponent» leading them Pliat had was onlv eight points in the first quarter, but ut half time when North cote liad increased the lead bv a few points Prahran realised that they would have to plav up to recover position Thev did play hard but until the last lfi minutes when they were steadily overhauling their opponent** Prahran found the opposition «tram? in every part of the field The last ßta^e of the match was full of excitement for Prahran were coming on Northcote had tired ti bit and it was just a question whether Prahran or the K11 would arrive first The bell won, and at the finish the Prahran team were still four points to the lind It was an excellent game «nd North cole won by the superiority of their t,oal ¿ticking getting 7 goals from It shots while Prahran only cot ri from 20 times betwei n the behind postt, [t was the improvement in their organisation ivhich as much us nnvthing else, won the match for Northcote The period when that was neon to most advantage waa during the third quarter, wheu tiny scored lfl points to Prahran s four Tile loaers may be credited with a desperate attempt to pull Die match out of the fire and comforted with the fact that they verv nearly succeeded

On the winning side the form was generalh good Tliey tried Cole as a rover and he proved verv clever indeed in tliat caparltv Both II and S rhomna played good football Others who dis liuguished themselves weir Smith Duncan, Kruger, Clements Bassett and Moore 1 or Prahran, both "Wilson and Meidncr played in first rate form Others who tried hard to recover a lost position were Moroney, Carlson Mavuard and Sims



Melbourne Citv fourni neither liope nor comfort when they went to Port Melbourne on Saturday to play the home team It would have been a good game if the visitors were ttven the wind all through \.B it was they never had a hope-they just played pluckilv earnestlv us usual, and with the usual result In the (list quarter there was nothing between them Melbourne City then had the wind. In the second Port Melbourne began to creep away, and thereafter it was always a matter of increasing their lead. They finished up with 16 goals 10 behinds, the only side who got a century for the day. Their forwards had good prac- tice, Parr and Merrick each getting four goals, while Watson got three and Anderson two. Even locally there was no interest in the match. The   best players for the winners, were Brown, Ander-   son, Walton Merrick, Cleland, and Goddard. For   the City the only players worthy of mention were W. Smith (back), Phillips (roving), and Donalley  




rr-l | 7-i ' " " North Melbourne j 1-d | fi-0


Footscray   Brunswick

North Melbourne Essendon    

Williamstown   Prahran    

Port Melbourne Brighton Northcote

Melbourne City



Beverley, 13 goals 13 behinds (91 points), beat Carlton District, 6 goals 8 behinds (44 points).

Leopold, 13 goals 6 behinds (84 points), beat Fitzroy Juniors, 3 goals 12 behinds (30 points).

Collingwood District, 21 goals 15 behinds (141 points), beat South Yarra, 4 goals 11 behinds (35


Hawthorn, 9 goals 9 behinds (63 points), beat Collegians, 4 goals 9 behinds (33 points).

Caulfield, 9 finals 15 behinds (69 points), beat University, 6 goals 15 behinds (51 points).


Club. Matches. Won. Drawn. Lost. Pts.  

Collingwood Dist. 16 15 .. 1 60   Leopold .. .. .. 16 13 1 2 54 South Yarra .. .. 15 9 .. 6 36 University .. .. 15 8 .. 7 32 Fitzroy Juniors .. 16 8 .. 8 32 Beverley .. .. .. 16 8 .. 8 32 Carlton District 15 5 .. 10 20 Collegians .. .. .. 15 4 1 10 18 Hawthorn . .. .. 16 4 .. 12 16

Caulfield .. .. .. 16 3 .. 13 12


Hawthorn were cleverer and showed more sys-   tem than Collegians. They deserved their win thoroughly. Hawthorn's leading players were:—   Loft and Gordon (the best man on the ground), ruck; J. Collins, roving; Brady, Renouf, and Arm-  

strong, centre; and Hargreaves, O'Dee and Mor-   ris, forward—though every member of the team     played well. For Collegians, Kennedy, Levin, Moore, Grieve, Snook, and Denton showed to ad-  


Caulfield played University on the Caulfield ground the game resulting in a win for Caul- field by 18 points. Caulfield players were in ex- cellent form, nearly every man on the side at one time or another doing something of value. The pick of an even lot were:-Germann (whose high   marking was very fine), Rayson, R. Southam, Walls   (2), Cornish (2), Weeks, Eakins.

The Leopold-Fitzroy match provided a splendid       contest, the play at all times being fast and open. A special feature of the game was the marking shown by both sides, but the Fitzroy fonvaris were unable to find the opening as well as their opponents who excelled in goal getting Hie winm» were best served bv Tankard (who i put up i bplendld defence) Hennington Robert | bim \\ nod 1 )t7gernld, bniacko Leonard Woot »ton and Murnv whilst ntzroy's most prominent were Diintrv Cock, Heron, M awn, Sergeant, and j Rochforte

Carlton District and Bevcrlev played in good spirit, and a good open game resulted with some fine marking by both sides. Beverley's best were    

-McInnes, Wilson, Eltham (back), Yeo (centre), James (wing), Lacey, McKeone (ruck), Enright   (roving) and McKendry (forward). Carlton Dis -

trict's best were:- Bridie, Stimpson, Durston

(back), Andrew (wing), Rogers Matheson (fol-    

lowing), Grimster (roving), Bailley and Gillesple     (forward). Beverley's goal kickers were: - Moffatt    

(4), Yeo (3) Playle (2), McKendry (2), Palmer   (1), Daly (1), Lacey (1)

j (ollingwoc-1 District met South ".arra at Mc

I ni Pirl and although the game was onesided It prodmrd home verv fine ind si ilful football with Collingwood District alvvavs well in front Best for Collingwood District were A Thomas who I lay ed his first game \ Penrose, T Cibnev, R Water_on B Roberts T Downes C Mutch A ! -Thompson and B Thorpe The goal I takers

were -Downes (4) Thomas (4), Goodall (2), Saiigumottc (2) 1 itrarerald (3), Thompson (*>),

t ibnn (") Keary (1) and McCarthy (1) I



Clifton Hill Methodists, 11 goals 19 behinds (85  

points), beat Oakleigh, 3 goals 5 behinds (23 points).  

Brunswick Juniors, 10 goals 13 behinds (73 points), beat Melbourne District, 5 goals 3 behinds  

(33 points).    

Richmond District, 18 goals 14 behinds (122   points),beat Everleigh, 2 goals 7 behinds (19   points).

Coburg, 18 goals 18 behinds (126 points), beat

Hawthorn B, 4 behinds (4 points).

Elsternwick beat Northern District.


Club Matches. Won. Lost. Drawn. Points.


Richmond Dist.   Elsternwick  

Clifton Hill Me-

thodists .. ..

Brunswick Juns Hawthorn B.

Northern Dist. Melbourne Dist. Oakleigh Everleigh


By defeating Burns by 4 goals to 2 Yarraville

now have a fine chance of repeating last year's performance when they won both the premier-   ship and the Dockerty Challenge Cup. The game on Saturday was more vigorous than scientific, and though Burns led at half time by 2 goals to 1, they were overplayed in the second half. The scorers were Grieves, Hahl (2), and Dowker for Yarraville; Bellis and Ruddiman for Burns.

St. Kilda defeated Footscray by 3 goals (Bur-  

rows, Kendall, and Mills) to nil, after having   the best of matters throughout.

Alhcrt Park and Birmingham made a draw of 2 ¿.nols eich Turnor and II Smith netting for the former in the first hilf Tavlor and Allen doing the icedful for the Bmms m the last portion of.

hird inl fibt game throughout ind ._ .._.. . in the closing minutes of the game that Prehton Miatchcd a victory. Ltptrot «coring with a shot that deceived Chrlstisson

Bnrns A havo now won the prfmlCTShrp of Üiol Reseñe League, as on Saturday they defeated

Footscrav A bj O goals to nil, Wlicldon, helso, and Innes each scoring Iwlrr

New South Wales will pin) their opening milch with \ letona on Saturday next nt tha I itrr«) ground and at the meeting «f the Referees. As social ion this evening the three esleíala for that

matcli will be chosen

The New South Wales team will be selected from ÏAWC, Williams, llosa Hughes, Cain Moore (cint,), Stoker, Oliphant, Muagra\e, Masters, Charlton, Blake Winter, and Seaser

Mctoria will be represented hy Raggell Clins tisaon, ]. Iones Itali!, anderson. Bond Ooodfoii Dick, Wood., Gutnrle Beattie. Don ker Hi ornas and Hell is <

flames between the two States were plaved In 36S3, 1884, 3S85, lS&tt, 3-SS7, and 1SSS Vittoria won Uiric _\cw South Wales two, and (line were drawn The first game waa pla) ed in Melbourne on \ngnst 10, JO j eura ago 1 Kier, who is now one of our hardest workers in the asKoeintion, was captain in 3SS3 Hie raptiin in 18S. _68J, 183(1 and 18S7*was A I (Ubi* who is now, the repre -___.._>__ .. ,*,-"i. the jnt-lish

liri'OICTAA .HTM Oil A*-l«»OGI \TI-tVN

Preston 31 goals 11 behind* (SU points), heit North Melbourne 1 goals ft behinds (2=1 points)

Brighton, J coila H liehlnda (J> point«) beat 1 (iota rat 1 LO ils 2 behind» (211 points)

Tort Melbourne, 10 goda n behm It («3 points), bett _armille, 1 goals KI behinds (M point«)

Prahran had a walkover from Camberwell

Ktendou, ft goal», 10 behlnds (40 points), beat Williamstown, 3 goals 3 behinds (21 points)


Port Mdbonrnc Willlimslowii Brighton

Mille Preston

North Melbourne > ootann

Catnlwrwell . . Ussi ndon Prahran

ill! 5 I s

10 1 2 14 NOTÍ,S

Preston showed to (Treat advantage on Sattmliv Korth took udvantagc of the wind but were mi

able to make mueh use of it, scoring only 1 goal J babinda to I behlnds On clunking Preston at once went to the front, and never {.hing their opponent*, a look in, scored 7-3 to 1 behind the scoreä at half time bein*, -Preston 7 «oak 7 behinds North I goal 3 behind« Preston con tinned to shoi*. out in the second half and though North battled on to the end they were i well

lien ten side when the hell îaiif, with the flml (-.?cores reading-Preston, IT goals 11 beliuids

North 3 goals S behinds Preston were well served b) Pimth Moon Nobel Thompson IA léanle

Bowtell, and McMillan, while prominent for North Melbourne were 1 ve rest, tarn II, McCarthev, rat lor, Stevenson

m.m__i.itr.i_<_ HIST it rea s

Satnrdav t> matches eonrluded the sceonil round md (lie four lowest teams will now drop out

Iv inhoe won the minor premiership, which carrie*, i challenge on pcrecn-Ui^os by a fraction of a point Scores - Ivanhoe 5 goals 10 beliuids (-40 |K>Inb>) heat iMrileld Seniors 3 goals 8 behinds (.(I points) Uplilngtou It goals li hi hinds (b1) points), beat Heidelberg, 2 goals 0 behind!* (13 points), Tairfleld Juniors 0 poals 1 behlnds (10 twmts) beat Diamond Creel 1 f,oal 2 behinds (S pointu) Greensborough forfeited to leinpleslovve Positions of clubs -Ivanhoe and tairfleld Seniors 44 points Mphlugton 40 Heidelberg, 30 Ula

Pill- IU7GT1V CÍA3II2.

S^DMA-Hie return întert-lute Hugh) 1 mon match between "New South Wales nnd Queenslind took place on caturdaj at the Lnherslt) OvaL Queensland won b) a singh point, the llnal peores being Queensland 22 points New South Wales °1 points

o'i iiinu si vins

S.DNt*. - The first semi Anal maUli in the mor fraile _ustralun rules was phi ed mi baturdfl) between Paddington and Newtown * good j, mie icsulted in a win for Piddington b) ft goals 8 behinds ("IS points) to i goals 7 behind*.

( U points)

1ÍROMN HUT.- Broken Hill " goals 10 behinds le it West t goal« 12 behinds, South 0 goals 10 behinds defeat eil North 0 goals (t behinds.

liAUNCl-STON -Hie West Adelaide team pin vee! Northern lahinmit, ut Launceston on Satnrdav \ splendid f,time resulted in a win for the ?visitors bv 17 points beeres were Adelaide 11 gotls It behlnds (7ÍI polnt-s) Northern Tismania, fl -..oals b behinds (0*2 points) The god kicker» for West Adelaide were Oaklej (2) Dwyer (2) lieh Dow! roi, (2), Doile), Mill*, inpp ( >)


HUIGII1 - Tn the Bright association Bright 5 l*oiIs 9 1 chinda ( f) point«) bent Wandiligong "i goals 7 behimis ( t7 pomt**) Porcmmkih, 0 goal«* 31 brhintls (47 points), beut 1 recburtli, 4 t,oils 7 bthinds (II points)

B VCCIILS MUtSII - The Bteebus "Marsh Bis tnct association ß premiership was ad vam ed an other stage on Satunhn wnen Melton ind Bacehm ¡Marsh, the winnei of the semi flnnl met at Mad dim,!*) Park Tlie weither conditions were un favourable Bacchus Marsh 0 goals 12 behinds defeated Milton, .! goals 10 behind:-. Melton hiving won the minor premiership these teams will pi i)

the llnal game on Satnrdav

t OI1K \M - In the (.milburn Valle) ARFoctation Cobram IJ goals 11 behinds (101 ¡mint«), beat lallygaioopm 4 goals (1 behind« (» points)

GUIKILW \ - Corrong, 2 i^oals 7 bellin Is (10 point-*) wen beaten b) Cudgewa, 1 goalH li be bindii (27 points), at Cornong in wet weather

DOOM I -Katandra lunior Association -Tr abba r outils 4 behind« (40 points), defeat«, i Dookie 1 goal 1 behinds (i> points)

LlIAlîÀLL - On Saturdav a team chosen from the Itiehmond Junior Assorhtion (whirh plaja under the nuhpices of tin Itiehmond 1 ootball Club) visited I ii)dale and defeated rcprea ntnttve« of the "\arra Hals Association by 5 goals 30 behinds to " goals 4 behind*-)

M Ul\ BOROlXm -In the Recoud H mi final match in the Mun borough District 1 ootball Asso notion on Satnrdav Temperance 0 goal* 1 ' behinds heat Bailvnvs 7 g-oals S behinds

P.M-NII.M - Pikcnham, 1 (.oals 14 behindR (12 points) lut Berwick 2 t,onls 5 behinds (1" points) (ail kiekers fcr Pikcnham Cunnuif,toi Bell, and Lewis for U rwiek I til i mid I spit

The defeat <f Uerwiel le ives Dindcnou*, minor premier** Bn-ftick JIP heronil Pal enliuin thin)

md Spring** ile fourth Hie first terni final will bo plived on Sit unía)

QUrFNSCUl F Stmdav -QuoenRchlT 7 goals 9 behinds defeated Militar), goals 0 behinds

IliniirHGI I \ - lu the «temi llnal of the .Rutherglen District Association Rutherglen ( i,oalfi 10 behinds (li* points) beat lake Jtovers ft goals G behinds O) points)

SHEPPARTON - Shepparton District Associa-   tion-Kialla 2 goals 7 behinds, beat Workers' United 1 goal 11 behinds; Shepparton Imperials 3 goals 20 behinds, beat Grahamvale, 3 goals 4 be-


WOOMFMîsC - In the North Western A*-*ocia tion Watchem, " goals "ï behinds (21 points) beat Woomelang _. goals 7 behinds (19 points) V protest ha» been leidged for tnnsgresslon of the rules bv Watchem In the îvortheni Association I a-seelles S t oals 10 behinds (5S points) heit rurrifr -! goals 10 lehlndh (14 points) Speed 1 goals 17 behinds (17 points) beat .empj 1 be

hinds (I points) ha«* Rovers (Ouyen) l goal b behinds (14 points) lie it Ideelles, S behiuda (S


W OvnUGOL-The minor premicrslnp of the ovvlett Rivei Distnct 1-ootlull Association Inn been won bj the lîamhlcrs OnH two teams arc left in for the premiership the IXamblers

id South Dtidlev

TARRAWONGA - The matches of the Yarn ?wonga DIhtriU Assocntion resulted - í^l o Charm V goals 7 behimis (40 points) defeated Mulwila J goals 1 belum!» (li points) ^arrawonim 0 j,oals 8 h-ehinds (14 points) heit Beiulli »j goals i te

hinds (13 points) liingum-ih, 1 goal. 14 Ixthinela (12 points), defeated Telford, nil