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    Trove newspapers redevelopment - Discussion thread

    Trove’s newspapers zone is undergoing redevelopment!

    The original Australian Newspapers service was released to the public in August 2008, and since this release there have been only minor changes to the interface and supporting infrastructure to migrate the service into Trove. As the service is continuing to expand, there needs to be some changes made to support the expanding content, and ensure that the service is reliable into the future.

    Although there will be some changes to the interface, which are intended to improve usability and accessibility of the site, the majority of the changes will be to the supporting infrastructure. These changes will allow Trove to support greater volumes of newspapers, as well as improve the response times and stability of the service.

    Due to the age of the newspapers system, this redevelopment requires a complete rebuild of the infrastructure and interface, although there are some limitations on what will be changed due to interactions between the newspapers system, Trove and other National Library systems. As this is a complete rebuild, no changes will be visible in Trove until the system is built, tested and launched.

    This redevelopment is an interim solution to improve performance, stability and accessibility of the newspapers zone in Trove. The National Library’s Digital Library Infrastructure Replacement program (DLIR) will introduce a new long term home for Newspapers, alongside all other NLA digitised material. The current redevelopment is focused on improving the existing system until such a time as DLIR reaches completion. If you would like further information on the DLIR project they have a public information page here.

    During the redevelopment process we will be posting to the Forums with information about what is being worked on, however details may be limited.

    This thread has been provided for you to ask questions and discuss the redevelopment process, not to make suggestions or request enhancements.
    Last edited by mraadgev [NLA]; 12-04-2013 at 10:46 AM.
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    in plain english

    What does this mean in plain English?

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    It simply means that we are working on improvements to the system behind newspapers to make it faster and more reliable.
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    Sounds like we will end up with an even better service. Thanks for keeping us informed Mark.
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    Will the URLs of newspaper articles remain the same?

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    Article identifiers will remain the same, URLs may change.

    If the URL you have recorded is in the form http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article99049782, then this is an identifier and it will remain the same.

    If the URL you have recorded is in the form http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/99049782 then it may change.

    To convert the second URL into the first, simply take the number after /article/ and add it to the stem nla.gov.au/nla.news-article with no space between article and the number - if the URL you have recorded has more than one number, only the first number after /article/ is required.

    The same goes for Page and Title Identifiers, replacing article with page or title as relevant.
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    Very useful information.
    Thank you.

    Article identifiers are intended to be permanent URLs? So that they will always be the same, even if the "common" URLs change again years from now?

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    Yes, article identifiers are intended to be permanent URLs - AKA persistent identifiers - so the same article identifier will always lead to the same article regardless of what else may change in future.
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    In regard to article identifiers:

    I notice that a number of Trove users (including some quite experienced users) enter web links for newspaper articles into Comments that they have obviously just copied and pasted from the web page URL — some including the full search string, etc.

    It demonstrates that a lot of people are not aware of the need to use a stable article identifier as their link, though it is explained in the Help pages in a couple of places.


    For those that do not know:

    The link you should use is obtained by clicking the 'Cite' button above the Electronically Translated Text for the article. This brings up citations for the article in a few different formats, and included is a stable 'Article identifier' link that can be copied and pasted. There is also a stable 'Page identifier' for the whole page if one is required — I have used this, for example, when pointing to a whole page article that has been mistakenly included at the end of the article on the preceding page(s).


    As Mark, and the Help pages, point out these stable article identifiers are designed to be permanent links, despite what changes may occur to the computer architecture.

    I suspect that any upcoming changes to the system that affect URLs will result in many of the current links in Comments ceasing to function.

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    Whilst article identifiers will link to the first page of an article, is it possible to use them to link to a subsequent page in an article?

    This would be useful in many instances, especially for those cases where subsequent pages hold separate articles (even though enclosed within what has been scanned as one article).

    For example, http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5773306/514136 links to the second page of http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5773306, but both come under the same article identifier (http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5773306).

    A page identifier could be used (e.g. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page514136), but that would not link directly to the article itself.

    Adding the latter part of the URL to the article identifier does not seem to work, e.g. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5773306/514136

    It may well be that this is how it is and that there is no way to use an article identifier to link to a second page. However, it would be good to know if it could be done.
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