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FOOTBALL EXPOSURES. ALL-ROUND PROFESSIONALISM. HOW IS PAYMENT MADE?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 4 October 1910, page 7
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The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 4 October 1910, page 7
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| 2012-05-01 17:15:33.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | fuge in "district football," another sug gests the pooling of receipts and distribu authorities ; a third advocates acknow | fuge in "district football," another sug- gests the pooling of receipts and distribu- authorities ; a third advocates acknow- |
| 2012-05-01 17:14:29.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | moro it is no use. I am getting that | more it is no use. I am getting that |
| 2012-05-01 17:13:56.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | Hle tells the following story: - "One day | He tells the following story: - "One day |
| 2012-05-01 17:13:02.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | be done, then letl the game become entire's | be done, then let the game become entire's |
| 2012-05-01 17:12:56.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | be done, then Iel the game become entire's | be done, then letl the game become entire's |
| 2012-05-01 17:12:39.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | and instead of more disqualification, actopn | and instead of more disqualification, action |
| 2012-05-01 17:11:57.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | ftvel iillnwanii foi expi n«es and furllici and most important <'f all a general mulei standing unionist the Iclcsiitis Hill lluro will be no Inifhcl mg in pluvir« and that all accounts «li ill lu mililcd bv a I ingie iiuditoi Until sonic i ubi ii clime w nude (here will be nu improvement nr> hop« of pine unateiii «[mt If this e munt be done then Iel tin f me lieiomc entile v professional with di liuitt p iv meut foi set vites lindel eil Conti nts would be muli md instead of moi c dis pinhliiilioii icti m foi fi mid would follow suih oí curremos as lime icecntlv degraded Hu game | fixed allowance for expense and, further, and most important of all. a general under- standing amongst in delegates that there will be no trafficking in players, and that all accounts shall be audited by a league auditor. Until some radical change is made, there will be no improvement, no hope of pure amateur port. If this cannot be done, then Iel the game become entire's professional, with definite payment for ser- vice rendered. Contracts would be made, and instead of more disqualification, actopn for fraud would follow such occurrences as have recently degraded the game. |
| 2012-05-01 17:01:04.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | pounds tins vtar" said in cvteutive ollie«! of one of the Hubs last ii eel bul no min for nu I don t mind will n li is all squ ile but when von find the men you an pivni-r licmi. suspected of phyllis stiff well li l lune to id nil A\ hen told tint am piv ment to piners wns die.ii Hu exiiiitivu ollieei «mile«! and «nid M iv he lint we hnve lu do it or vv« would not "el the Wini i- tilt lcnicdv' Distiut foothill mid a pooling of the (.ile moniv with i | pounds this year," said an executive officer of one of the clubs last weeks: but no more for me. I don t mind mind, when it is all square, but when you find the men you are paying being suspected of playing stiff. well it time to get out.' When told that any pay- ment to player was illegal, the executive officer smiled, and said. "May be: but we have to do it, or we would not get the men." What is the remedy? District football and a pooling of the gate money, with a |
| 2012-05-01 16:48:49.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | llim cilled setrctar) s petty eish -I iimsS valuable item 1 cm assure you It is not always club money (hil pin vides payments for ptajors but Hu lund H supplied b) special mibscriplions, i used bv supporters It has cost mc i few | item called secretary's petty cash' -a most valuable item. I can assure you. It is not always club money that pro- vides payments for player, but the lund is supplied by special subscriptions, raised by supporters. "It has cost me a few |
| 2012-05-01 16:43:55.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | little parcels and hiniled out If von w ml a good junioi )ou hive lo offti fcoml expenses lue new arrangement whereby players will no1 be able to play ofi lcngm anil association against One iiinthei nuiv c ise Hie position but it w ill take it lot tu cure the greed) mon " These aro the feelings of n leiding « n lui) who I news what he is talking a'> ii Ile tells the following sion - ')m «'i aft«I ii mutch-asktd for Hie loin of ii ilf a sovereign I lent it and later on he told mo ho could not lepav the loan and I li id belter crèdil it to profit and loss \\ ill I gel Hie hilf sovereign Kick' No' A\ ill I lose it' \o A\ ill it he cluiigcd to tv penses' Acs' A ou 11 piobnbl) lind it in au | little parcels, and handed out. If you want a good junior you have to offer good expenses. The new arrangement, whereby players will not be able to play off league and association against One another may case the position but it will take it lot to cure the greedy men. " These are the feelings of n leading secra tary, who knows what he is talking about. Hle tells the following story: - "One day after a match-asked for the loan of half a sovereign. I lent it, and later on he told me he could not repay the loan and I had better credit it to profit and loss. Will I get the half- sovereign lack? No! Will I lose it? No. Will it be charged to ex- penses? Yes! You 'll probably find it in an |
| 2012-05-01 16:29:36.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | the attitude all round On all sides one finds Hie sime thing Pi ivers ure sub sidised nnd pnvnicnl-if not open nt any nile illicit-is made, and it is beyond qtlcs tion that delegates know it Club score tancs will show )ou their hooks in which expense accounts are charged but lhere is no means of cheel ing Hiern and m ninety nine ciscs out of a hundred the undi tor is a chili member chosen because he is a good fellow und an enthusiast for the club lu conversation with the srtrcturv of a club a few CM nings nfcn he described the members of Ins le nu as human v ullin is and lu went on to explain thus - VA i have our fellows graden into classes und our trouble is thill those who rcccivid less than then fellows at the begumine of the «eiison have trained bald and iiinde them selves valuable In the side As soon us thev lind realised their value the) hnve asked to be pul up into Hie eins« abovi and so thinned moie moncv A\ c muli no bones about it, and regnrd the payments us wilges Hie more a playtr gets Hu more lu Hunks he is entitled to I lu payments ate made lifter each match and every Wiitindnv the moncv is made up in | the attitude all round. On all sides one finds the same thing. Players are sub- sidised, and payment-if not open, at any rate, illicit-is made, and it is beyond ques- tion that delegates know it. Club score- taries will show you their books in which expense accounts are charged, but there is no means of cheeking them, and in ninety-nine cases out of a hundred the audi- tor is a club member chosen because he is a good fellow, and an enthusiast for the club. In conversation with the secretary of a club a few evenings ago he described the members of his team as "human vultures. and he went on to explain, thus: - "We have our fellows graded into classes, and our trouble is that those who received less than then fellows at the beginning of the season have trained hard, and made them- selves valuable to the side. As soon us they had realised their value they have asked to be put up into the class above, and so claimed more money. We make no bones about it, and regard the payments as wages. The more a player gets the more he thinks he is entitled to. The payments are made after each match, and every Saturday the money is made up in |
| 2012-05-01 16:05:08.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | vol it is known tint the men are paul' 1 irlv this veir a prominent goal kicker w is approiclied, and iskcd to play with - His nnswer was to the point "Un less )ou cm pa) mc C4/10/ a week or moro it is no use T am getting tint where I am going" lins is not an lso luted eise lvei) junior invited to nliv with a senior team i«ks al once 'What is it wotlh' and on the ttiswer depenus his reply to Hie invilitinn Unless you offer them some induce mont ' said the pre-adenl referred to above, 'you einnot get them A ou must do it or lose your chance" And this is | yet it is known that the men are paid? Early this year a prominent goal-kicker was approached, and asked to play with - His answer was to the point, "Un- less you can pay me C4/10/ a week or moro it is no use. I am getting that where I am going." This is not an iso- lated case. Every junior invited to play with a senior team asks at once. "What is it worth? and on the answer depends his reply to the invitation. "Unless you offer them some induce- ment." said the president referred to above, "you cannot get them. You must do it, or lose your chance." And this is |
| 2012-05-01 15:49:45.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | 'Hie balance sheels of the clubs published )oui b) year show large sums of moncv disbursed under vinous heading", but never ii mention of any pity mont to pla) cfs. Are we lo lichcvc tint pla)ers tro not paid' Onlv is recently as lui w eck a president of one semor club sud 1 very footballer is paid except in the University te nu " anti' s ono is not able to reconcile his statement with the league or association rules How can the b ti mee sheets of clubs he y te« ed m the light of such a statement' Of ill the mysteries to he clucidited this is th) most bafllinc, How is it Hint balam « sheels show no payments to pla)ers and | The balance sheets of the clubs published yer by year show large sums of money disbursed under various heading, but never a mention of any payment to players. Are we to believe that players are not paid? Only as recently as last week a president of one senior club said. "Every footballer is paid except in the University team, " and one is not able to reconcile his statement with the league or association rules. How can the balance-sheets of clubs be viewed in the light of such a statement? Of all the mysteries to be elucidated this is the most battling. How is it that balance- sheets show no payments to player, and |
| 2012-05-01 15:36:19.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | llicse statements show the trend of lc-icuo opinion, but it is doubtful vv hellier Hu re is a man on the leainie capihlo of tinkling the pim tipd question 'What do clubs do witl their moncv * I he dclcgitos-who nu m the mun ilo«clv associated willi the mun iigeincnl of club-sit in council al the le tgtie or association t ihlc in profound ig noranco of what goes on but m the club committee room-where of course the in formation is confidential-these s uno dele- gates join in the discussion of vvivs and means | these statements show the trend of league opinion, but it is doubtful whether there is a man on the league capable of tackling the prin- cipal question. "What do clubs do with their money ?" The delegates-who are in the main closely associated with the man- agement of clubs-sit in council at the league or association table in profound ig- norance of what goes on but in the club committee room-where, of course, the in- formation is confidential-these same dele- gates join in the discussion of ways and means. |
| 2012-05-01 15:26:02.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | constituted lut tilt woul) le a bcneíU to llein sport for thev vroul I then I e forrod to a I« 11 needed reforms and the Jlinlitir ivouil te In i losltion to uithpriic tin «arion bodic« o( trmtrej to treit with tho elul i on A lietter foollm: it the/ i| preached bim with «Jean ianda and clean liri po«-ilH The present svrfcm which allowa ot certain chu« let-iinini- ilispropnrtiotiilrlv larsc Bimvi vear ittcr vear lejds lo delesates of svnli vvrclll " clnlw t irrvlnir more than ti eir fair share of «elirht an 1 Inlbicnci It Hie countll table is is shown b} the nrromnee di«pla)el on occisión*. ' | constituted, but that would be a benefit to clean sport, for they would then be forced to adopt needed reforms, and the Minister would be in a position to authorise the various bodies of trustees to treat with the clubs on a better footing, it they approached him with clean hands and clean pro- posals. "The present system, which allows of certain clubs retaining disproportionately large suton year after year leads to delegates of such wealthy clubs carrying more than their fair share of weight and influence at the council table as is shown by the arrogance displayed on occasions." |
| 2012-05-01 15:05:13.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | Before going into details let us quote from recent statements of league nutlion ties One life member, speaking of the recent troubles, said - "The trouble comes througl the payment« lo players The leujruc should pool all the wonev and jriic each club a fixed amount each weeli for extensos. Tho fact ia that we have not given each other our confidence and so the pLivcra have been able to dictate terms. \nothor spenking of the action of tho Lands department in regard to the Titzro) ground, sud - If the Vllnlstcr would see the necessity for notifying; all football « lui s- lcajnte anla&ocir tion-llut no c1 arges woull be pcrmltttsl for foot lull after October 1 Ulli Um solution of our traill les would, in my opinion be reached It would brent, up lonlrollnie bodies as at present | Before going into details, let us quote from recent statements of league authori- ties. One life member, speaking of the recent troubles, said :- "The trouble comes through the payments to players. The league should pool all the money . and give each club a fixed amount each week for expenses. The fact is that we have not given each other our confidence, and so the players have been able to dictate terms." Another speaking of the action of the Lands department in regard to the Fitzroy ground, said: - "If the Minister would see the necessity for notifying all football clubs- league associa- tion-that no charges would be permitted for foot- ball after October 1, 1910 the solution of our troubles would, in my opinion be reached. It would break up controlling bodies as at present |
| 2012-05-01 14:48:53.0 | user:public:australianfootball.com-SPGB | "vVhat is the reined«' for the present Ey cr) one connected with the game, ex- cept those w ho point to the 1 irgo crowds and say "There can bo nothing wrong vi hen the publie patronise the sport," admit». Hint reiorm is necessary One finds rc fugo m "district football," another sug gests the pooling of receipts and distnbu lion of expenses bj league or association nutiionties a Hurd advocates acknow ledged professionalism msteid of the tlnnl) veiled ptvnients which now prcvci! In which does the solution lie» -. | "What is the remedy for the present Everyone connected with the game, ex- cept those who point to the large crowds and say "There can bo nothing wrong when the publie patronise the sport," admits that reiorm is necessary. One finds re fuge in "district football," another sug gests the pooling of receipts and distribu tion of expenses by league or association authorities ; a third advocates acknow ledged professionalism instead of the thinly- veiled payments which now prevail. In which does the solution lie ? |