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    Frederick William WOOD or WOODS

    I found this 'In Memorium' notice inserted by one of my 2x great Grandfather's daughters in the

    BARRIER MINER - 16 October 1915

    WOOD -In loving remembrance of
    our dear father, who died at Sydney on October 16,1913.
    nserted by his daughter and son- -in-law and grandchild (Annie and Andy and Violet Brooks, Broken Hill)

    Therefore he died (presumably) on 16 Oct 1913 somewhere in 'Sydney'...
    Frederick William Wood's father was (from 1860 mge cert), William Wood.
    No idea of mother's name.
    Lived most of his life as a drover/miner in Murray Mallee SA ; up and down the Darling & Murray River system as well as in White Cliffs and BH areas.
    I have gone through the NSW online BDMs for WOOD and WOODS but unfortunately have not been able to find him - of course, they are not listed by 'date of death'...

    Searching SMH & Barrier Miner for Oct 16 1913 there is no death nor funeral notice...
    can anyone assist me in the search of Frederick William WOOD's demise ?
    Last edited by ezekiel21; 25-12-2011 at 12:38 PM. Reason: mispelt

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    Do not rely on Trove for this sort of information. Even if there was some announcement in a paper:
    1. it might have been in a paper that has not been digitised.
    2. it might have been scanned incorrectly and not yet edited.
    Unless it was a question of an unidentified body found and not claimed, it should be on the CDs or microfiches of registrations and available in State Libraries, Family History Societies, Genealogical Societies or the libraries of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (Mormons). However, not all states have yet released their records to that date. But any of those institutions should be able to help you.
    One other place to search is the registry of Probates and Administration of Intestate Estates. Victoria is great in this respect. As far as my personal experience is concerned, NSW is obstructive and expensive.
    Good luck!

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    Many thanks for the 'heads up' re Trove and it's usefulness re this kind of thing. I am waiting for the holidays to end so as to hit the Library for their Family history gear.
    Happy New Year.

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    I have re-read your earlier post, and should have noticed this earlier. If he died on 16 October 1913, his death or funeral notice could not possibly have been in the paper on that date. It would not have been easy to get it in by 17 October. Search for another few days.
    If he was a well-known identity in Broken Hill, the Barrier Miner might possibly have written, several days later, an account of his funeral - although maybe not if it was in Sydney.
    Country newspapers are great for newsy, gossipy reports on people's lives. Reading about the funeral of one of my grandfathers (who died before I was born), I found out things that even my father did not know. It gave the names of pall-bearers, of those who attended, those who sent wreaths, even of people who simply sent condolence cards. (And he was nobody special, just an ordinary working class chap.)
    I would suggest that you also hunt through Postal Directories and Electoral Rolls from before his death, but I am not sure that they extend that far back in NSW. (If they do, then they would be in the State Library, probably on microfiche.)

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    I felt guilty about maybe sending you on a lengthy wild-goose-chase, so I checked through the Barrier Miner and the SMH on Trove, using the key words Wood funeral, and Woods funeral, taking no notice of any corrections, but going to the funeral notices themselves. (And restricting the search to October 1913.) Not there, as far as I could see. It is unfortunate that one of the funeral directors in Sydney was called "Wood", so just about every date came up.
    You are left with a variety of frustrating choices. The people who put in the Memorial notice had the place or the date wrong. There was a notice inserted in a different paper. There was nobody who would pay to put a notice in the paper. (It is not compulsory, and not everybody puts in notices, which have to be paid for.) He was living under a different name. (For years I have tried to locate the death of somebody - not a relative - who used four different surnames and about eight different given names. Lord knows whether he had taken on yet another identity at the time of his death.) How about the Rookwood cemetery records? Or the records of Funeral Directors? (Some are available, but far from all.) I think that you need help from somebody experienced in NSW research. somebody who knows the roads less travelled.

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    Given the vagaries of the OCR-ing etc, it would help if you could provide what information you have on this man presumed to have died in 1913, e.g. names of other family members (wife, other children, etc), dates of birth, marriage etc. The answer might not lie in the newspapers, so the more other information you can provide the more likely someone is to come up with some useful information.

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    Also, just to play devil's advocate ...

    What the notice in the Barrier Miner tells us is that Annie Brooks has a father called Wood who died 16 Oct 1913. However, it does not tell us that this is Frederick William Wood. Are you certain that Annie Brooks is the daughter of the man you are seeking? Could there be two Annie Brooks out there with a father Wood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezekiel21 View Post
    I found this 'In Memorium' notice inserted by one of my 2x great Grandfather's daughters in the

    BARRIER MINER - 16 October 1915

    WOOD -In loving remembrance of
    our dear father, who died at Sydney on October 16,1913.
    nserted by his daughter and son- -in-law and grandchild (Annie and Andy and Violet Brooks, Broken Hill)

    Therefore he died (presumably) on 16 Oct 1913 somewhere in 'Sydney'...
    Frederick William Wood's father was (from 1860 mge cert), William Wood.
    No idea of mother's name.
    Lived most of his life as a drover/miner in Murray Mallee SA ; up and down the Darling & Murray River system as well as in White Cliffs and BH areas.
    I have gone through the NSW online BDMs for WOOD and WOODS but unfortunately have not been able to find him - of course, they are not listed by 'date of death'...

    Searching SMH & Barrier Miner for Oct 16 1913 there is no death nor funeral notice...
    can anyone assist me in the search of Frederick William WOOD's demise ?
    I have been searching for information on my great grandfather Frederick WOOD and found this thread. I may have some information that can help. I have a copy of his death certificate. It is from NSW and is reference 17043/1912. It gives his DOD as 16 Oct 1912 (and shows his surname as WOODS). He was buried in the Rookwood Independent Cemetery on 17 Oct 1912. Family knowledge said he was buried in Rookwood and a search of Rookwood online confirmed this information.

    I have not been able to find birth records for him, though.

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    I have seen a copy of the 1912 death certificate referred to above on ancestry for Frederick Woods [sic.] died 16 October 1912 at RPA Camperdown, and based on many family trees, looks like this is definitely the one being searched for by ezekiel21.
    Other googling shows that his wife Roseanna died at Brewarrina in November 1906.
    Ann

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