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Thread: The problem of newspapers limited to 1954

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    As a writer of non-fiction in specialised areas with small markets, I have given up hope of making any real money out of my writing, which I must regard it as a public service.
    On the other hand, I need research materials, and I am quite narked when I cannot get hold of them because of some pettifogging regulation imposed on us from overseas. Fortunately, most of the material I need came out of copyright before the new regulations were imposed.
    I agree with Kerry to some extent. A book that has been out of print for years, and which is not going to be reprinted, should not be restricted if the originator(s) are deceased or not going to be able to benefit from it financially - ever. I think, however, that there should be a longer copyright window. Not long ago, a work had no copyright protection unless it was registered; it was considered a progressive step when automatic copyright applied, as this extended protection to private correspondence as well. However, everything has changed with the advent of internet and google and blogs.

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    The Australia Law Reform Commission (ARLC) is taking submissions until 27 April 2012 on amendments to the Copyright Act, specifically:

    The legitimate use of copyright works to create and deliver new products and services of public benefit; and

    allowance of legitimate non-commercial use of copyright works for uses on the internet such as social networking.

    Clearly there is little commercial value in newspapers 20+ years old in Australia, otherwise this would have been commercialised already.

    I encourage all of you to make a submission to ALRC on the basis of "public benefit"

    http://www.alrc.gov.au/news-media/20...erms-reference

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    Has anyone actually asked the publishers for more up to date newspapers? The Womens Weekly has come good after all. And how about The Bulletin? It has to be more relevant to more people than some obscure country papers.

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    The Sydney Morning Herald
    38,755 issues
    Apr 3, 1830 - Dec 31, 1989

    is available at Google News...... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC

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    I think it would be marvelous to see 1957 and forward Herald digitalised. It would be a great asset to research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonHeppell View Post
    The Sydney Morning Herald
    38,755 issues
    Apr 3, 1830 - Dec 31, 1989

    is available at Google News...... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC
    I've found that to be a bit of a dubious resource: either it's incomplete, or the OCR scan they base the search on is really, really bad. I can search for pretty prominent people and get far less SMH hits than I would searching for an equivalent figure from earlier years on Trove.

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    Smile SMH issues 1953-1989 on Google News

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca View Post
    I've found that to be a bit of a dubious resource: either it's incomplete, or the OCR scan they base the search on is really, really bad. I can search for pretty prominent people and get far less SMH hits than I would searching for an equivalent figure from earlier years on Trove.
    I agree Rebecca that the accompanying search engine is less than optimal, and nowhere near the quality of Trove's. However, it is better than no resource at all. The 1953-1989 issues are at their best when one knows the date of the event being researched, i.e. a publication date of a death or funeral notice obtained from the Ryerson Index, or searching for a birth notice within a few weeks, say, of a known birth date. A little legwork is required, but the outcome can be very rewarding.

    Browsing issues around known events, i.e. the sacking of the Whitlam Govt, or the drowning of Harold Holt, will produce also much information about any prominent participants and stakeholders.

    ps....continuity alert...many issues had family notices on the last page. This page often appears as p1 in the scan of the following issue....

    pps...there's more....some issues, listed as unavailable, are actually tacked onto the previous day's issue. The clue here is the number of pages...anything over 30 pages, unless on a Wednesday, is a good indicator of multiple issues lumped together in a single scan.
    Last edited by JonHeppell; 28-04-2012 at 04:08 PM.

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    For anyone that doesn't yet know, the SMH as well as most other Fairfax publications are now searchable and viewable, free, all the way up until the present. Here's a quick breakdown:

    1. Trove, 1842-1954, http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/35
    The Sydney Herald (1831-42) can be viewed at http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/37

    2. Google News, (1831)-(1989), [URL=http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC[/URL]
    You'll notice here that Google's organisation, interactive layout & search capabilities are notably inferior to Trove (includes the Sydney Herald and the Sun-Herald with the SMH)

    3. SMH Digital Archive, (1955)-(1995), http://archives.smh.com.au/
    Includes the Sun-Herald. Search navigability is rather crude but possible (gosh, we've been spoiled by Trove!). Viewing requires a subscription but if you have a NSW library card you can log in through their portal for free: http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources...?subjects=6165

    4. SMH News Store, 1990-present, http://newsstore.smh.com.au/apps/new...ac?/index.html
    Includes a good selection of Fairfax's Australian papers such as the Age and Sunday Age, as well as a few regionals and foreign print. unfortunately the results interface isn't an actual newspaper page, just text, but you can always hit the microfilm later.
    Last edited by mogedon; 08-05-2012 at 03:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogedon View Post
    3. SMH Digital Archive, (1955)-(1995), http://archives.smh.com.au/
    Includes the Sun-Herald. Search navigability is rather crude but possible (gosh, we've been spoiled by Trove!). Viewing requires a subscription but if you have a NSW library card you can log in through their portal for free: http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources...?subjects=6165
    Ditto also for the State Library of Victoria if you have their library card.
    Last edited by jhempenstall; 08-05-2012 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by listohan View Post
    Has anyone actually asked the publishers for more up to date newspapers? The Womens Weekly has come good after all. And how about The Bulletin? It has to be more relevant to more people than some obscure country papers.
    The Bulletin would be a great resource to have on Trove. It has been asked for before, although I suspect its non-appearance is due to lack of funding. I must admit that I am surprised that it was not one of the first titles to be scanned. In its early days it was regarded as a newspaper, rather than a magazine, and therefore should fall within Trove's realm.

    On that subject, scanned magazines would be a great addition to Trove, and seeing how the Australian Women's Weekly is already included, it should present no problems; early magazines would be great resources for news and culture.

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